Spiral Knights - A Lockdown Intervention [edit] with an added discussion of gender differences.

A Lockdown Intervention [edit] with an added discussion of gender differences.

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Wed, 11/13/2013 - 16:15

#51

Mushy-Bucket

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I'm STILL laughing that Mawa thinks this game would survive without Lockdown. I know a huge number of so-called "End-game OP" types like myself would either quit or play solely as a live forum.

Lockdown has its quirks, I won't disagree, but you gotta live with it. Where do you think all the LD regulars started? 15k, 20k, 25k a match? No. There was apparently that time when they were barely qualified gear-wise to play it and got destroyed. You just gotta learn and get better while getting more appropriate gear.

Wed, 11/13/2013 - 20:09

#52

Sirius-Voltbreaker

*sigh

I wasn't being sexist. Most of my friends are girls. I am just saying that girls have the common sense nt to like violent ganes. I don't know why you are offended. If it seems that I was being sexist I am sorry, but I meant no harm. I apolofize to all those insulted by my commment. I was saying that everyone, is different with different interests. If I was sexist, I woulve been mad at all the girls who kick my *** in lockdown, like cocobe, offense armor, and whimsicality. In fact A HUGE amount of skilled players are girls, so.... I mean, women are smarter and better than men anyways. I guess I should have phrased it correctly.

So people, just ignore the ***hole aka (me) if I phrase something wrong. I am 15 , young and foolish.

And I apologize for grammar since I am using a phone to post on forums.

Wed, 11/13/2013 - 20:34

#53

Xtweeterx

I'm no LD player, but seeing

I'm no LD player, but seeing as how you all are ripping on someone just for stating their opinion backed up by hard evidence is just sickening. That's all I have to say.

Wed, 11/13/2013 - 20:52

#54

Thegamerguy

I love you Mawa.

Wed, 11/13/2013 - 21:40

#55

Tehepicwin

"I doubt any of you would

"I doubt any of you would condone intentionally trying to hurt someone’s feelings person-to-person, in real life, as acceptable behavior. Yet you lockdown guilds do it constantly, not only in lockdown games, but also in online forums and in-game chat."

Hmm...no. I have seen very few lockdown guilds who do that kind of thing at all.

Lockdown is shoot-spam-shoot, slash-slash-slash for a short interval in an outnumbered or out-healthed fight until one player falls down in a graphics mess."

This part sounds like what you would say after you lost 10 matches in a row after you started. Of all things lockdown is, it will NEVER be slash-slash-slash or shoot-spam-shoot. There is always more to lockdown to this. Its easy to take down reckless people who use OP trinkets.

"The whole f’d up mess is a cirque de jerk, unworthy of the Spiral Knights game, and an embarrassment akin to a zit on your nose that just won’t go away. (The LD pros and their guilds are the pus . . . yuch!)"

Many people are being called insulting on this thread, but this does not make me feel good. This statement is based on only on few people. I must admit that I used to be a "pus", but you can not say this for the few individuals who still are.

"The way it winds players up and brings out the worst in human nature is disgusting. Playing lockdown is like walking into a party (Spiral Knights) and discovering dog poop (ld) on the bottom of your shoe. It’s needs to be scraped off quickly and thoroughly before the smell of it completely ruins the otherwise fun atmosphere."

It does not. That's just the internet for you. There is also no way that the game forced you to play lockdown.

That's my two cents. For you, lockdown if funner if you try to improve. Lockdown will always be a piece of **** if you never try to become good in the first place.

Also, it would be a good idea to graveyard this thread.

Wed, 11/13/2013 - 21:58

#56

Retequizzle

"I'm no LD player, but seeing

"I'm no LD player, but seeing as how you all are ripping on someone just for stating their opinion backed up by hard evidence is just sickening. That's all I have to say."

your opinion and/or two cents on a non-essential issue is important to us said every person who has never actually meant that ever

But no, really. The only "hard evidence" that's been provided in either direction is the tent the Washing Machine's pitched at the thought of their thread still being in the top five active posts in the LD forum. But given how he's competing with a circlejerk between Jemps and Twenty One, something about Brick Squad (which I still haven't really found time to read), and two other threads that I can't remember off the top of my head (so they can't be too terribly fun at the moment anyway) - I guess anything's an accomplishment, especially when you consider that this thread has more posts in three days than his guild thread has in eleven months.

Thu, 11/14/2013 - 03:16

#57

Mystrian

"Toxic" comments need to stop

Not just in lockdown, but on sites like Youtube, facebook, twitter, and all those other ones that allow comments.

And also, at least post where links are going to. Some of us may not know whether that link you posted is malware or even keylogging sites.

Thanks for the insightful read!

Thu, 11/14/2013 - 04:38

#58

Sinnthesis

@Mawashimono

What satisfaction do you derive from trying to rain on everybody's parade? I mean, I can do the same, but I choose not to. I mean, I could be rude and tell you that you should stop posting on the forums, because every whiny word that comes from your hypocritical mouth does nothing but make you look more and more like an attention mongering parasite, but I choose not to! I could say that after the whole debacle with a certain ex GM of your current guild, and the embarrassing charade that caused aforementioned situation, your credibility as a voice of the community has been tarnished and rendered even more useless than before, but I choose not to! I guess what I'm trying to say, dear Mawashimono, is that there will always be things that bother you. But in the grander scheme of things, nobody really cares about what bothers you, and we'd all prefer to keep it that way.

Also, I've noticed that since that...event, you've become increasingly unstable and have been showing signs of multiple developing psychoses, especially in your forum posts. I recommend getting outside every now and then, maybe going on a vacation? Hawaii sounds nice. Take pics LOL

Thu, 11/14/2013 - 05:01

#59

Mayaura

Mawa comes in for a victory lap.

Hey, thanks everyone for all the great posts. It was very satisfying to see and entertaining to read. I even got some laughs out of the ones that were attacking me personally, which was pretty much what I was expecting. What I was not really expecting was the amount if support and agreement I got. Thank you for taking the time to think and write a serious reply.

Anyone who makes the kind of posts I make either developes a pretty thick skin or just leaves the forums altogether. I get a kick out of those players who go around attacking people or just mucking up as many threads as they can like a pack of rabid mutts urinating all over the place in an attempt to mark it as their territory.

No, I won't graveyard the thread. Why would I do that? I'm surprised you'd even ask.

I just enjoy writing, and for the most part, try to do so at a high level in an entertaining way. I'm not looking down on you any more than I "look down" on students in my writing classes. I'm happy just to inspire you to greater writing in general. Yes, I baited youy a bit to try to accomplish that, and I'd say it worked pretty well, but my posts were also an honest reflection of my opinions.

Again, thanks for the feedback, and I hope we can all continue to enjoy this game in ways that suit us best for a long time to come.

Thu, 11/14/2013 - 06:12

#60

Vivideus

This is my conclusion, after a month of observing this section of the forums.

1. Post new generic rage thread about LD/AA/AT.

2. Watch and eat popcorn.

3. As people rage over your thread, post once more to reinstate your point.

4. Watch, with more popcorn, as the forum ragers/haters visit the thread and start turning it into another generic rubbish debate.

5. Go to sleep, wake up, watch with satisfaction as your thread got bumped to the topmost with over 9000 replies.

6. Watch, during your work/school, as three-times-seven, something-like-jam, break-squat and other guildless people turn your thread into spectacular drama. Watch, with even more popcorn, as the nicer guys ended up totally ****ed trying to mediate on the thread.

7. Opens another generic rage thread. If they hate you too much, wait for a week, rephrase your point in different wording; totally ignoring the fact that you could actually ignore LD, ignore this section of the forum, roam freely in the General Discussion and Treasure Vault, bring forth to the community epic awesome rage.

Seriously, I felt bad. All Lockdown players seemed to be epitomized by Darkcub, Feller-turned-Pony-Rider, Contri and a few more ragers.
But dude, we are not what you think.

Thu, 11/14/2013 - 06:32

#61

Scirio

It's a chick.

Also, she likes generalizing I suppose.

Thu, 11/14/2013 - 08:10

#62

Doctorspacebar

/thanks - Pass it on

@Mawa: You're going to need to watch the logical fallacies.

For example, I've heard many players say many people from, say, Jempire and 21, are nice enough people. You call their entire guilds "pus" anyway. That is a hasty generalization fallacy.

Also, calling people "pus" is in itself another logical fallacy: ad hominem, meaning "to the man". Calling someone 'pus' does not provide your argument any merit, it just makes people upset. If you really want to convince anyone Lockdown should be removed, you should just drop the 'pus' comment right now. Edit it out. Remove it. It's a zit on your argument that needs to go away.

For that matter, your comparison of Lockdown to a zit or to dog crap does not give any logical reason it should be removed.

"Lopsided victories are boring as well" - you hit the nail on the head there. That's why I enjoyed my previous playing session less than usual- the teams weren't balanced at all, with what I'll nickname the "Stabtastic ASI Pro Brigade" going up against me and my team of generally less UV'd players. (And then there was the one where Redblades and another guy left near the beginning, and doomed our team to a 4v6 nightmare. That was awful.)

Balancing teams is something that really could be done better; Auto-Scrambling the teams after around three consecutive victories in public games would be a great start. That's what TF2 does and it usually works. Hey Devs, you reading this auto-scrambling part? (sound of no devs reading the auto-scrambling part)

As many others have said, there will always be cyberbullying as long as there is an internet. People are jerks. The most you can do is /ignore them. (And let them know you're doing so; enough people do this, and a jerk might realize something.)

Thu, 11/14/2013 - 09:31

#63

Retequizzle

"And also, at least post

"And also, at least post where links are going to. Some of us may not know whether that link you posted is malware or even keylogging sites. "

or you can hover your mouse over the hyperlink and read the URL destination in the bottom of your browser

if that's still too much work for you, then there's a power button you can hit that will make sure you never get malware or keylogging issues ever again

Thu, 11/14/2013 - 15:34

#64

Sinnthesis

@Mawashimono

Seeing as how the majority of your threads are passive aggressive attacks on people and guilds that have wronged you, I'm gonna go ahead and say that you're still a giant hypocrite. Whether it be you getting shafted on some prismatic accessories or getting kicked from a guild, the amount of gently veiled witch hunting you commit makes you no better than the "pack of rabid mutts urinating all over the place in an attempt to mark it as their territory" of which you speak so lowly of. And lastly, don't think so highly of yourself lol. Your "high level" writing is reminiscent of the blog posts of the "deep" middle schooler that "nobody understands." But, I suppose you need to have something going for you in order to keep posting these wondrous examples of hypocrisy, so believe in what you choose to. As if me telling you otherwise would change anything lol. Just quit the game so you can become another name that nobody can remember.

Sinnthesis (lol) the Rabid Mutt Prince and non-member of a terrible guild ~ ♥ signing off (-___-)

Thu, 11/14/2013 - 16:38

#65

Xtweeterx

@Sinnthesis

I have no clue if the "hypocrisy" means you think Mawa actually does LD, or what ever you just said. I'm just sitting here watching.

@Retequizzle

It disturbs me that you seriously just thought an honest opinion on something is meant to be a universal truth. -1 faith in forummanity.

Thu, 11/14/2013 - 17:33

#66

Retequizzle

are you blind by chance, or

are you blind by chance, or are you just that stupid

because nowhere have i attributed a single post made in this thread as anything more than an opinion made by their respective posters

the only thing i have said in regards to anything in terms of opinions was me stating that there's been nothing concrete stated on either side, and then a reference to washing machine having a hard-on for themselves

if you have trouble grasping the difference between facts and opinions, let me know because there's this nifty website you can look at that does a pretty good job of explaining it

and it's also got pretty colors so you can keep up

Thu, 11/14/2013 - 18:50

#67

Modicu

In response to the original post...

I will agree with you, Mawa. I remember the first time I played Lockdown back when I became a Soldier, as I was curious about the Coliseum and its offerings. Blast Network was (and still is) my all-time favorite PVP gamemode on there, as the concept of introducing a Bomberman-styled gamemode into the game itself for recreation and competition was definitely an eyecatcher. I rarely see people on it nowadays, and often wonder if I'll ever have the fun of being able to speed around the map and often get blasted by my own explosions due to a hilarious lack of perception. But hey, that's half the fun of it! Good times on there, I must say.

Now, Lockdown is a whole other ball game. I've played some matches before, mainly to "dance" around other players a a Recon Scout, wielding probably the most unused handguns, bombs, and swords on there. The game seemed fun when I first gave Tier 1 Lockdown a try, as it was definitely a rush of excitement playing in some aggressive games on there, especially with simple weapons like a Hot Edge or a Heavy Hatchet. Heck, even a Pummel Gun was fun to use on there. As I progressed, I soon became interested in trying out Tier 3 Lockdown, when I became a Defender. My views of Lockdown hastily changed when I finished my first match in that spiraling disaster... And mind you, at the time, I was the "odd one out". Going into the gamemode, equipped with an Ascended Calibur, a Faust, and a Khorovod, while wearing an Ash Tail Coat, a Mighty Cobalt Helm, and no trinkets. I did fairly well, dishing out about 900 damage, captured 3 points, and experimented with each of the classes. (Avoiding the Striker after my first attempt at it, and I also didn't want to become one of those uptight braggers who kill you in one swing and laugh at your suffering.)

After the game, I got a LOT of random whispers from those both on my team and on the other team. Everyone else had 5* gear, all with powerful UVs, and they came in the game with trinkets that made me shake in fear. I didn't have anything close to them. Some of them said I sucked ***, that I should quit the game and play another MMO that's more "along the lines of your poor self", and that I should give up on trying to play something I know I'll never be good at. Some even had the remark to complain about me for "sucking so horribly you would make babies cry everywhere", I think, at least that's what they said in the whisper. After those remarks, I decided to log off and give the game a break for a good week. Now, I can't be insulted due to my nature, but words can still carry a toll on someone. For me, that toll is rarely playing Tier 3 Lockdown. I'm still terrified to play the game to this day with some decency, as I really want to get a Blight Needle, but my experiences on there make me wonder if I should just wait for a miracle of it appearing on the AH for a roflprice to occur. I have a Toxic Needle that I got off the AH for 9,000 crowns a while back, and now it's rotting in my arsenal at level 10, begging to be upgraded. But meh... now I just play the game as a Recon Unit, going around and backdooring capture points. At least now I'm able to defend myself with better gear and a reliable loadout. Anyone who dares to try to shove some hideous words down my throat will have a very painful time regurgitating a charged Valiance energy projectile down their's.

I wish there was a greater sense of maturity on this game. I love the game and all, and everything it houses, but it's the people like those I honestly wish would just leave enjoyable games alone to be well... enjoyed. From the way I've seen it, I once again agree with Mawa:

Lockdown definitely brings out the worst in human nature.

EDIT: I forgot to add, but some of the posts in this thread (excluding Sirius' posts), raise some rather odd questions in my head.

Thu, 11/14/2013 - 20:31

#68

Klipik-Forum

Things.

"Lockdown definitely brings out the worst in human nature."

I can attest to this. Bad day + bad set of LD games = watch out for me. Coincidentally, I apologize to anyone I was playing with earlier today if I induced depression with my overwhelming pessimism. I do that sometimes.

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Now on to other things - @Mawa, if you come back here again. Please take criticism, don't just ignore it. I don't really care about whatever point you were trying to make here, but you do it in such a way that you manage to tick off virtually everyone who read this thread. Usually you can expect some hate anywhere, from a small or even large portion of the posters - but with something like this, I'm inclined to think you did it on purpose. That kind of people - instigators, people who have a "thick skin" - get under mine. You are doing nothing positive here, all you did was manage to garner a bunch of hate for yourself and others. Don't put yourself above us. The way you conduct yourself here is frankly sickening.

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 00:39

#69

Mayaura

Please don't make this thread about me.

This thread was about the Lockdown being not only a bad game (yes, yes, in my opinion), but a corrupting one as well as evidenced by the behavior of the "lockdown" guilds.

As the original poster, it's understandable that some comments would be directed my way, but why try to make it about me instead of the topic?

Yes, I offered some rather pointed criticism in a provocative manner, and a lot of people seemed to agree with me. However, I mentioned no individual players or even indivudal guilds. Even so, it's not surprising, given their track record, that those people who felt they were being criticized would try to insult me personally rather than disucss the topic.

I take it as a compliment, though, that they quoted my posts to such a degree. It's nice to know they actually took the time to read and respond to what I wrote. Hopefully, I've impregnated them, inception-like, with a thought that will bear more positive verbal and behavioral offspring sometime down the road.

Sorry, Kilipik, but I basically just scroll over attack posts and ignore them, and maybe add the posters to my robust ignore list. Their absence and silence just improves the game for me oh so much. I gave up trying to discuss something with people who are more intrested in being insulting and rude.

Of course, if they are the kind of despicable cowards who are using forum alts in order to hide their real game indentity, I don't even bother. Let them crawl back into their holes until they can somehow summon up the moral courage to put their name next to their words.

Oh, and could you please stop misusing passive-aggressive. Take a second to look it up on Wiki or something to try understand why it has no application here. It gives me no pleasure to see people embarrass themselves that way.

And yes, good thing us dragons have thick hides, and I really appreciated the hugs and love from my "fans".

One thing surprised me, though, and this is going to take the thread in a new direction possibly.

I saw comment that suggested boys may be more attracted to Lockdown than girls given its violent, competitive nature.

I believe there is some merit to that observation. Maybe it’s my culture, but I think there really are some big differences in the internal make up of men and women. Unfortunately, it can be difficult to discuss those differences without sounding sexist.

Power, strength, action, violence – no one could seriously argue that these things are not more masculine than feminine, and since so many computer games incorporate these elements, naturally, there are more male players than female for these kinds of games.

I think the かわいい　(cute) graphics and social aspects of Spiral Knights attract a higher percentage of females than other games. However, in my experience, it doesn’t carry over well into Lockdown. It’s hard to say exactly why, though.

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 02:15

#70

Vivideus

OK, I AM BEING A HYPOCRITE OF

OK, I AM BEING A HYPOCRITE OF THE WORST KIND!

/e sits and eat more popcorn.

The attention Mawa gets is akin to the local buzzing legislators at my city. Amusing, but nowhere constructive.

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 05:48

#71

Midnight-Dj

Sigh, women and their double standards. This gentlemen, is why I never play/discuss video game with a woman, because there is just no way anything would go through a woman's head other than, let's say, her own words. Say, what you want about LD Mawa, I don't play it, you don't play it, many people out there don't play it, let's leave it at that. Why go into a sewage and try to kill some rats when you can enjoy a nice cup of coffe on street of Paris, where everything is the way they should be?

Lockdown threads are trashy, I agree wiht you on that one. And yes, it is completely okay for a lady to try to get some attention. I tried to get people's attention once, it failed utterly, maybe it is due to the fact I am a man...

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 08:06

#72

Whimsicality

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Fri, 11/15/2013 - 08:09

#73

Blue-Flood

Re: "boys being more attracted to lockdown"

It's the general behavior of the genders you're talking about there Mawashimono. As people develop from like toddler ages, girls and guys play different which translates to the adult version. There are usually two types:

Girl: Let's all play together for the common good! But I don't like that person so I don't have to play with them. (less risk less reward and alienation)

Guy: Even though I hate you, let's do whatever we can to win! All or nothing! (greater risk greater reward and inclusion)

My wife works with little people (pre K), and gets to take classes on this stuff and fill me in :) So after playing a few games of LD guys can be easily hooked and girls can be turned away from it. Usually... there are always exceptions

Also to derail this thread even further, have a cute!

Hyper Willow!

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 08:21

#74

Msaad

Another useless thread by Mawashimono? ✓

Does it involve Lockdown? ✓

Does it involve Rubyeclipse/Jempire? ✗

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 08:33

#75

Dragneel-Wiki

We can easily get Ruby/Jemps in here.

Jempy are toxic, they noob, they ce rev, and spam.

See? ez

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 09:55

#76

Zaderules

After reading this thread, I would like to say this is a thread showcasing people who are butthurt about losing.

First off. GIRLS. GIRLS. GIRLS.
Anyways. Look at League of legends. TONS and TONS of girls play league of legends. of course there are way more guys compared to girls. And girls even STREAM their gameplay.
Look at Spiral Knights. Like no girl plays Lockdown. The one important thing that's common between these two games is competitiveness. You WILL lose SOMETIME when you're in a competitive game. DEAL WITH IT. When girls lose in League of Legends, sure they may be sad, but they sure don't become butthurt to the point where they stop playing. They always think ways to be better and practicing. Seems like the girls in Spiral Knights either don't have the guts to deal with losing or they don't know how to improve. Honestly, I hope people enjoy competitive games because it allows people to fix their problems and discover new strategies to attacking problems.

Second~~The swearing.
The "Ignore" button exists for a reason. YOU guys are butthurt about people swearing at you? PFFT. Compare that to other games where there is so much more swearing. Of course there is also a "Report" button too! Butt, nooo. Some people decide to just complain about all the toxic behavior.
SO WHAT. PRESS THE TWO DAMN BUTTONS. THATS IT!
My god you guys get so butthurt so easily. Be a man. Yes, girls, that means you too.

Third~~The Accusations
Stop saying Lockdown makes guilds toxic. Look. Guilds are just a group of friends right? They're just a GROUP OF FRIENDS that decided to not like something. So, don't deal with them! Obviously you have that one impression of toxic behavior towards one guild. AND OBVIOUSLY you DON'T know ANYTHING else about the guild. Honestly, I think each guild has their high points somewhere. Even guilds like 21. Jempire. The guild people hate on for CE reviving, AT, UVs, so what? Clearly thats all you know about them. For example, do you know how 21 treats people within their guild? No. Not unless you're in that guild no. You know NOTHING unless you're in the damn guild.

Fourth~~Unfair Games
Honestly, since when do you expect games to be fair? As for SK, the problem lies in the developers, and that is all in the suggestions forum. I do admit, SK is kinda slow in responding compared to other games, such as LoL and Dota, etc. Those games balance themselves pretty frequently. If something is unfair? FIND A STRATEGY. My god. If you just sit there, you sure ain't going anywhere but crying like a bum. I understand if competitiveness isn't your thing, then that's fine. But to those that decide to bail out of competition without even trying to find a way to counter the problem are the real pus****. That's all.

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 11:05

#77

Bookmarkmayne

Juicy like a steak.

ITT: Washingmachine makes claims to be showered in haterade, says he likes it, and flames while calling everyone crappy writers. Glad to see this community hasn't changed much.

For the record, this is his opinion of good writing:

“For you, milady. Something to remember me by until we meet again.” The Dragon Princess twitched her wings but could not quite bring herself to extend a long-nailed hand to receive it. Since they were still quite close, Leone gently reached across and attached the flower to her helm. As he withdrew his hand, he lightly caressed her cheek. Mawashimono involuntarily closed her eyes and rubbed her jaw against his retreating hand. When she finally opened them again, Leone had departed, leaving only a dark vapory trail and a promise of future intriguing entwinement."

source: http://lionheart-sk.forumjap.com/t8-the-story-of-lionheart

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 11:17

#78

Msaad

@Dragneel-Wiki

I was talking about a typical *Cough* Washingmachine thread.

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 11:26

#79

Krakob

@DRAGNEEL

OH MY GOD YOU ARE SUCH A NOOB HOW RUDE I AM OFFENSED PLEASE TAKE OUT THE GARBAGE AT LEAST SOMETIMES DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW MUCH I LIKE MATHS

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 12:00

#80

Dendios

Inb4 da banhammer kicks in because I THINK SOMEONE HERE IS IN CONTACT WITH THE GM CREW AND PUPPETEER THEM"

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 12:54

#81

Mystrian

Requesting lock

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 14:14

#82

Klipik-Forum

Well, hijacking your own thread. That's new. Why not just... make a new one? Seems to make a lot more sense.

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 14:19

#83

Feyi-Feyi

So you ask us to participate in your thread and then admit to just scrolling over the answers.
You still haven't addressed a single argument in any of the posts.
Seeing as you have such high standards you surely also know there still is no actual discussion because you lack facts.
All reasons why this thread became about you and not about the topic.

You is delusionist man.

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 15:26

#84

Offense-Armor

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I don't know about you, but I find the composition of LD players to be split about 60 : 40 (especially when talking about dedicated players). There are a lot more girls who play LD then you'd first think (It feels like more than half of the top players are girls imo). Probably because if they're playing a somewhat obscure MMO like SK then they're a "gamer girl". At a young age the stereotypes about girl's interests may be true, but things really branch out in high school. There was a girl in my class who appeared to be very docile and quiet. Then she confessed to having an airsoft gun collection. There's also the fact that LD isn't really "violent" graphics wise because the knights just falls down after being defeated. In fact guys seem to act much more feminine in SK then anywhere else. Using "cute" emoticons and stuff like that. It's all very interesting.

Another long post....... sigh

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 17:05

#85

Rezzler

Haa, nice one mawa. Well

Haa, nice one mawa. Well played.

You successfully have trolled this trash heap of a lockdown community into rage posting. Very well played indeed :)

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 17:12

#86

Tehepicwin

Guys, just shut up.

I am almost certain that Mawa is a troll of some sort. If not, then Mawa is a maker of worthless, stupid, and delusional comments. I do not mind if Mawa hates us lockdown guilds or anything, because he/she is a stereotypical rager who no one cares about.

P.S.: Baiting people into arguments is ok IMHO, but the way you do it is actually mean. If you try to make someone look stupid, you will.

P.P.S: One-sided jerk

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 17:16

#87

Rezzler

You do realize Mawa is one of the ncest people in game<? Not to mention she owns a HUGE guild, (not lockdown obsessed), ad she is extremely helpful. Also, she owns the best costumes. Bt thats another story.

She is a pretty respectable player, and is smart enough to bait simpletons into rage posting. Thank you for demonstrating

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 17:27

#88

Tehepicwin

I am perfectly alright with non- lockdown guilds. I respect them fully.

I didn't rage post. Mawa baited people in, and made harsh generalizations that are completely untrue. He(I'll just call Mawa as a he from now on.)
INSULTED, key word, the thing we love, and I will stand on my side unless I can be proven wrong. You don't call lockdown pus.

As for those who talk about mean things many lockdown players say, I can more than just understand. I can agree with those comments. BUT, making a generalization from those select few is not ok.

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 18:23

#89

Tehepicwin

Oops double post -_-

I don't care whether Mawa owns a huge guild, is respectable, or smart enough to bait simpletons. I must admit, the way he baited us in to do this is really smart.

I also get the feeling that this thread is some sort of joke.

Unfortunately, the joking atmosphere would be good if Mawa didn't structure the thread like this. Going around and saying lockdown, its guilds, and its individual players are toxic IN THIS WAY is mean.

I also bet that SOME PEOPLE *cough* will reply to my comments for some reason.

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 19:57

#90

Mayaura

this is a lunch-break quickie

＠Midnight-Dj
“Why go into a sewage and try to kill some rats when you can enjoy a nice cup of coffee on street of Paris, where everything is the way they should be?”

Mmmmm, sensible words, call me sometime :)

@Blueflood
Interesting comments. Yes, I’ve been making some generalizations about guilds and gender, so of course there are exceptions, maybe big ones. For example, I have friends in The Jempire and there are a lot of great people in that guild whom I know only as “Haven Acquaintances”. Certainly, we all have our good points and bad points.

@Rezzler
Thank you. That was sweet of you. Be sure and get a hug next time we meet up in Townsquare.

I really enjoy meeting new people in that game and will spare a few moments for day-1 squires wandering around Townsquare with a glassy-eyed look.

Okay, I know I said this thread should not be about me, but I can say a few things about our guild.

“You do realize Mawa is one of the nicest people in game<? Not to mention she owns a HUGE guild, (not lockdown obsessed), and she is extremely helpful.”

Our guild, Lionheart, is open to 2* geared players on up, and I actively look for players I can invite in and help out. We don’t require anyone to fill out an interview and then tell players “No, sorry, you’re not cool enough to hang out with us.” Nor do we haze anyone with a waiting list to prove their desire and worthiness. (suppresses gag reflex). Nor do we require players to prove their skill in order to advance in the guild. We base that on more important qualities.

We are just a straight-forward helpful and friendly-for-all-ages guild.

“She is a pretty respectable player, and is smart enough to bait simpletons into rage posting.”
Shhhh, (wink)

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 21:27

#91

Dendios

"You do realize Mawa is one

"You do realize Mawa is one of the ncest people in game<? Not to mention she owns a HUGE guild, (not lockdown obsessed), ad she is extremely helpful. Also, she owns the best costumes. Bt thats another story."

"She is a pretty respectable player, and is smart enough to bait simpletons into rage posting. Thank you for demonstrating"

...

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 22:07

#92

Tehepicwin

you dont say

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 23:53

#93

Sirius-Voltbreaker

Mawa is not nice at all. Smart but not nice.

First off, I wasn't baited, because I love this game, and insulting the only thing keeping it together is extreemly selfish and dumb.
Secondly, my old alt was Timok, who used to be in Lionheart. And, before I happened to befriend the old gm of lionheart. St.Leone. I found out almost immedietaly what happened. To make it short, mawa lied about being a certain person, sent random pictures of that person. And he found out. He got mad and they drifted apart and some other things. Blah blah blah. So, St.Leone left the guild, but still wanted the guild to be well off.however, mawa noticed his alt and removed him before he could donate 1million to the guild. He has probably quit. I hate mawa for that sole reason. You make my friend look bad, I get mad at him, he tells what happens making me more drepressed andmakes me hate myself. So look, "troll" no one appreciates your lighyheaded comments. I know you will ignore this most likely, but this will show you are oblivious and ignorant. It means you don't have he guts to correct yourself. You will always be a hypocritical coward, and will never be anything more, just wasted time. When you ignore this, I'll laugh and laugh, and laugh some more in pain, knowing that Saint leone's efforts went in vain.

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 23:57

#94

Vivideus

Mawa is stupid and ******

Mawa is stupid and ****** (insert generic rage phrase)

NO, NOT BECAUSE SHE IS FEMALE

But because she is bringing this gender topic to a game's forums, in the PvP section.

Nuff said. Kill yourself Mawa, I lost all respect on you.

Sat, 11/16/2013 - 00:46

#95

Modicu

Ahem...

Vivideus, watch yourself.

Telling someone to kill themself, whether being literal about it or not, is NEVER a choice of words to use when going in with a reply. If anything, that'll make people lose all respect from you. This was also not entirely centered around genders, as it was originally going about with how poor Lockdown conduct is. I just think people decided to travel well out of their way to honestly just shun Mawa for the dumbest, and obviously most biased, reasons out there. It's pretty darn amazing how the original poster hadn't intended this thread to be centered around her, but instead, it was supposed to be centered with what I said above, about the conduct and behavior of the immature gits you see in Lockdown from time to time. However, it would appear that to some people, this thread is more of a riot against Mawa herself, and wildly shifting off of the main topic at focus (prior to it being changed a bit.)

The overall integrity of this community, preferably withing just this simple thread, makes me honestly wonder if I should be honestly terrified of the way people behave on here. It's the posts I see in threads like these that absolutely scare me away from even wanting to look at a forum page again.

Sat, 11/16/2013 - 01:26

#96

Blue-Flood

When reading anything, be it

When reading anything, be it scripture or a McDonalds ad, the integrity of the presenter should always be taken into consideration when viewing the context. In this volatile forum, if you have even a slight blemish on your integrity be prepared to have it exploited. Lord knows it still happens to me for things I've said in the past - in and out of game!

Imagine the drama if we could raid guild halls or attack people in haven. Imagine everything you've spent hours obtaining would drop at the foot of your attacker when you'd perish to revive later. This stuff is pretty docile compared to some of the cutthroat games I've played. :)

Too deep for SK?

@Vivideus: Weren't you that guy who I told I'd never join Impervious again if you were still in it? I might be mistaken. The above post would lead me to believe so :)

Sat, 11/16/2013 - 01:41

#97

Son-Of-Hades

Quit whining. Raging,

Quit whining. Raging, spamming, and trash talking happens in virtually every PvP game.

Sat, 11/16/2013 - 02:54

#98

Mayaura

I'm not surprised that such a personal attack against me exists on a forum started by a player who got banned from these forums for his uncivil behavior. It's just another example of why that guild is the most despised guild in the game, and it's no coincidence that it's also the most lockdown-obsessed guild in the game. As I said before, there are some nice folks in that guild, but as a group, you guys suck.

And as Blueflood said, consider the source. It's a very skewed telling events with several outright lies from a young guy who was feeling hurt. If you actaully believe that's an accurate record of our personal events, then you are foolishly naive.

I do not wish him or your guild any personal ill will, but it's amazing that I'm still in your heads to such a degree over a year later. I'm in a much happier place now; I hope someday you will be, too.

Sat, 11/16/2013 - 04:03

#99

Markus-Aurelius

Mawa, I’m not sure what you are trying to accomplish or what your true intentions are, but nothing good is coming from this.

As far as your second paragraph goes, I don’t see how either you or St. Leone can prove your stories. It sounds like it is just a giant mess of he said this, she did that, she said this, and he did that. So to call someone “foolishly naïve” for believing a story that is different from your story is ridiculous.

Sat, 11/16/2013 - 04:14

#100

Krakob

All conflicts have two sides. Most of the time, you'll find that neither is "right".

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A Lockdown Intervention [edit] with an added discussion of gender differences.