Spiral Knights - 5* Winmillion

5* Winmillion

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Tue, 07/23/2013 - 03:19

Coalitu

I realized that it's hard to make a 5* for this weapon that's not OP. So instead of doing a major damage buff for the 5*, give it a status buff. Make it so the 5* has a chance for stun. That way it balances out it's lack of DPS, as for the dodging enemies "problem" either give the projectiles a larger range or make them explode.

I also think the charge and functionality of the line needs work. Shield canceling is very difficult with Winmillion; not to mention how the charge attacks projectile can be canceled!

As for a name and look for the 5* I am unsure. Maybe something like Turbulent or driftant.

Tue, 07/23/2013 - 03:24

Thunder-The-Bright

1 topic in the first page
2 you inflict stun you have to hit at least once. with things not stunned, it's practically impossible.

Tue, 07/23/2013 - 04:29

Perume

Arc typhoon

Maybe we could hate two 5* versions: one with freeze and one with fire. Both would have the same normal damage. The names would be blizzard and fiery... something. If not, only one version, the arc typhoon, which could be aurora islands-themed, clockworks-themed or decon zone-themed. The charge attack would change, and the disc would be a small vortex which would suck the enemies around it.

Tue, 07/23/2013 - 07:04

Waffleconecake

I WANT TO CUT YOU

WE DON'T NEED A FREAKING 5 STAR WINMILLION. ALL IT FREAKING NEEDS IS A BUFF ON PROJECTILE RANGE AND MAYBE STUN EFFECT. I JUST WANT TO STAB YOU IN THE THROAT RIGHT NOW GHAHAAAHGHAAAAAAAAA.

Tue, 07/23/2013 - 12:04

Draycos

Waffle, do you have any self control, or do you just choose to have self control selectively across topics? Cmon, man, there's no need to do stuff like this.

Winmillion and potential upgrades have been discussed in the past. The gist of the discussions goes something like this: It's really hard to balance, since it's both a sword and a gun at the same time, but currently it has the damage of neither of them, especially because it deals normal damage. It needs to have something unique about it besides being able to be a sword and gun at the same time, otherwise it'll be underpowered like it is now or blatantly overpowered. Giving it a 5* upgrade won't do it any real good, and it needs a specialized damage type or new mechanics.

Tue, 07/23/2013 - 13:04

Waffleconecake

self control is only for good threads.

I choose when to use self control drayco, if the thread is relatively fresh, like I haven't seen one for like a week I'll give it a calm response but if the god dam thread is a freaking cope out piece of scrap with less details on the suggestion then a freaking kindergartner's drawing I'm going to let go and rage at the person for being an idiot.

Tue, 07/23/2013 - 13:28

Draycos

I think you already know why that's a harmful choice of actions.

Tue, 07/23/2013 - 22:01

Sp-Shadow

If I may say.

The current Winmillion is like the Hunting Blade/Vile Striker as you can see the damage rate is the same, still, there are some diferent stuff in it, actually, the winmillion is rather slower than these other two fellas (and the extra bonuses of themselves). But in exchange of that e-v-e-r-y hit of the winmillion will inflict damage (the secondary hit of the winmillion always will hit the target because it is suposed to, since it is a freaking flying-ish disk). Anyhow, if we actually want to make an 5* Winmillion, the only thing that would change is the dmg (and we would want to put a stun change on it) ... That's why we need to balance both of lines, Cutter and Spur. Spur line is very much weaker than Cutter because of it's speed, tho, the secondary hit always hit the target, anyhow it's a unfair way to put things. I guess they wanted Winmillion to be a second choise between Cutter and Spur, but seems that things didn't work, or they are letting this to fix later.

~ Excuse my poor and deplorable English. ^^

Tue, 07/23/2013 - 23:06

Earthboundimmortal

@waffle

show me 1 post which you've been calm that you didn't make just to prove your point.

My idea is that for 5* that there would be 2 ver., 1 that has stronger projectiles, 1 that has stronger slashes.

Wed, 07/24/2013 - 08:04

Waffleconecake

@Earthboundbuttface

second post in thread.
twenty seventh post in thread.
I can go get more if you are not satisfied.

Now go jump off a cliff Earth :)

Wed, 07/24/2013 - 14:38

#10

Coalitu

I still think we need a 5 star

Let's be honest; if they increased the disk range and gave it's
stun...no one would use it. Compared to the other weapons it still wouldn't be a viable choice.

Wed, 07/24/2013 - 15:26

#11

Waffleconecake

I use it all the time jerk

I use it all the time jerk face >:O And from all the times I have used it the only issue I have had for it is the lacking of range of the disks as I made it to function as a ranged switch hitter and normal weapon for my pure sword load out.

Wed, 07/24/2013 - 15:32

#12

Draycos

Alright, then reword that; "no one trying to play as effectively as possible would use it". Consciously using it while knowing how subpar it is doesn't make it a viable choice.

"Pure" loadouts aren't an excuse either; even with max stats on the Winmillion you'd be better off using an actual gun, if not only for mobility.

Wed, 07/24/2013 - 15:34

#13