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Thu, 01/16/2014 - 15:03
Krakob's picture
Krakob

Now that Nick won't be anymore.

Thu, 01/16/2014 - 15:06
#1
Xtweeterx's picture
Xtweeterx

ME!

/me puts on a prismatic dapper combo

Troll announcements and posts for everybody!

/jk

Thu, 01/16/2014 - 15:35
#2
Vesperaldus's picture
Vesperaldus
Better question is: What will

Better question is: What will the new Lead Designer's Mascot be since the Impostocube is taken? I vote a fancy new lumber of sorts.

Thu, 01/16/2014 - 15:48
#3
Launcel's picture
Launcel
Can i apply? :3

I'll don a mewkat costume and give candy! :3

Thu, 01/16/2014 - 16:21
#4
Sandwich-Potato's picture
Sandwich-Potato

A Rock Jelly of course. What were you thinking?

Thu, 01/16/2014 - 16:43
#5
Aplauses's picture
Aplauses

Z.E.D.D.Y

Thu, 01/16/2014 - 21:37
#6
Fastdinoturtle's picture
Fastdinoturtle
I like pie

With at out nick, WHO IS GOING TO BRING BACK TORTODRONE

Thu, 01/16/2014 - 23:20
#7
Fehzor's picture
Fehzor

Lol, watch OOO actually hire Zeddy for to be the new lead designer. Wouldn't that be the day.

Thu, 01/16/2014 - 23:40
#8
Hellscreams-Forum's picture
Hellscreams-Forum
Zeedy's a scientist, Not a friggin designer !?!?

I think it will be Nick's brother from australia :D

Fri, 01/17/2014 - 00:17
#9
Fehzor's picture
Fehzor

Actually Zeddy has several other super powers aside from knowledge (Science), including but not limited to super speed, flight, and game design. That said, he lacks the GM's super power- dealing with tedious inquiries.

Fri, 01/17/2014 - 00:22
#10
Xtweeterx's picture
Xtweeterx
@Fehzor

No offense to either of you, and this is NOT meant to be a personal attack in any way. Let me just take a gamble and say:

I'm sorry, but I don't think Zeddy would make a good GM. And if he does, depending what he does might change the fate weather if I stay or not.

Fri, 01/17/2014 - 02:32
#11
Krakob's picture
Krakob

I don't think Zeddy has any interest in being a GM. As for a new lead designer, I don't think any people but Chris and Jordan are fit for the job. That said, I think Zeddy would be capable of dealing with some design issues that are present and he'd be able to do it very well.

Fri, 01/17/2014 - 09:38
#12
Seiran's picture
Seiran
lol

Zeddy has done a fairly good job at collecting data and "reverse-engineering" formulas, but at that point, he's just been a player analyzing data. If he were to suddenly join the SK team, all that information is pretty much laid bare to see. You can be analytic about things but it doesn't necessarily mean you have the ability to design content that can make money for Three Rings. Also, I've seen an attempt at suggesting balance for some other topic and I can't say I was impressed by it.

Also, idk why the GM topic came about in the first place though, because GMs are not designers, they manage the community. Looking back, it seems like impulsive defensive reactions.

There is only one possible choice in all this: this one, obviously.

Fri, 01/17/2014 - 09:38
#13
Fehzor's picture
Fehzor

Cragger-Da-Croc will replace Nick.

Zeddy's put in some decent suggestions too, to be fair.

Fri, 01/17/2014 - 19:30
#14
Rezzler's picture
Rezzler
^So have many other

^So have many other people.

Zeddy is an excellent contributor to the community, dont get me wrog. He isnt the only one though.

No matter who we put in that position, or fills it, they will make decisions that both angered and satisfied people.

The inescapable loop of suckage....and human nature.

Fri, 01/17/2014 - 19:44
#15
Iamnoone's picture
Iamnoone
This game will be a joke and

This game will be a joke and a sure sign of it's death if they pull kids from the community to replace the professionals who made/ran it in the past.

Sat, 01/18/2014 - 05:14
#16
Thunder-The-Bright's picture
Thunder-The-Bright
gods ain't gonna help you, son.

I vote Lug for next game designer. it will do a marvelous job in making everyone happy, crazy, dead, or all of them at once.

now seriously, we can only hope it's good and knows what the game is.

Sat, 01/18/2014 - 05:28
#17
Krakob's picture
Krakob
@Iamnoone

Employing people from a game's community is not at all a bad thing to do. People who are familiar with said game will have a better understanding of it than people who have never even heard of it before. Provided they have proper education, I think community members would make great additions to the dev team.

Sat, 01/18/2014 - 08:06
#18
Fehzor's picture
Fehzor

@Thunder-The-Bright

While I think that Luguiru has many many decent ideas, I'm not sure that he is on top of what the game really needs enough to pull through.

For instance-

""Pack Protection": a Gun Puppy emits a radiating signal (goes out in all directions like an expanding bomb blast radius) up to three cells away and gains +10% element defense (or +1 bar, since defense is apparently additive) per turret; those turrets can then do the same and 'connect' to other turrets; maximum of +30%/+3 bars element defense and +3% max health per turret (only applies to the bullet turrets, does not 'connect' with flamethrowing or rocket firing turrets);once a connected turret is killed its contribution to the bonus is removed for all other connected turrets"

-From http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/53120?page=5#comment-604314

But does this add much to the game? Imagine that it was added to-morrow, along with the gunner update. This would take a while to program into the game and test out to make certain that it would really work and benefit the game- it would have to be obvious what the gun puppies were doing when they activated it, and it would easily make them too strong. If anything, a defensive network of turrets should have its own set of levels, but this is beside the point.

Does this really make the game worth playing all of the sudden? Does it work to solve some underlying problem with the game? No. The game needs something more, and Nick- or someone- realized that and owned up to it last summer with the removal of the energy system.

@Iamnoone

Because you know, its not like any of us posting have ever coded anything or worked on a project, and its not like the developers ever lacked experience or were in our shoes.

I'm not saying that the next project lead should come from the forums, or even that Zeddy would be the best candidate. Just that it'd be an interesting thought experiment to follow through with.

Sat, 01/18/2014 - 08:14
#19
Zaffy-Laffy's picture
Zaffy-Laffy

Note, a game designer is not someone who makes ideas, it is someone who can make the ideas real. That means working to ensure that it is viable, does not cause too much trouble for the community, ensuring it meets the limits of the team working on the game, etc.

You have an idea, you take it, fit it into the game, see if it works. Does it ruin the game by depleting the community of vital resources, or does it ruin the game because it can kill a player in a second? I feel like we do need someone who is more knowledgeable of the community at hand, and knows what the community wants versus what the community needs. But who will it be...

Sat, 01/18/2014 - 09:57
#20
Iamnoone's picture
Iamnoone
@Krakob

This forum community has a very small, self-proclaimed, nasty troll squad that has been notoriously acting poorly to get what they want and often just for the fun of it. That is not in the best interest of the game or the community as a whole. They are proud of themselves for doing it. They believe achieving their end resolute justifies their means. They have demonstrated they are self-serving and don't care what they do to others or how they make others feel. They have been pushing away the rest of the community and potential new customers for far too long. They are not the entire community nor representative of the community at large. It has been tolerated by OOO for far too long. It's been a hostile take over of the forum. It would be absurdly reckless to put them in charge of things to continue with that mentality for the entire game where the customers would not be able to stay away from them, as they do with the forum, and for them to be directly effecting everyone's game.

Keep in mind the current thread in which two are now being hailed by the forum community as two they would want. One recently shows up thinking its a good idea to apply for a job on the forum and is beat down and the other was part, the troll squad. That squad went on and on attacking him stating he's too immature and too stupid for a job with OOO for doing what he did. I do believe the attacks he endured were against Terms but it was tolerated and left there for all to see. It wasn't that long ago, the jempire guild, its members and jews were being attacked and insulted by them. Now they are the best SK has to offer? :/

To put them in charge now would be a horrible mistake and only serve to make more of the true community feel that they are unable to use the forum and quite possibly the game causing another round of users to flea the game entirely. That is known as allowing a beehive to set up. They keep stinging. The rest run away from their stings as in real life with a real bee hive.

The short time they have been acting better in attempts to gain a job (which is self-severing) won't make all the wrong doings better, mean that they have changed or make them be good for the community and game, nor does the smoke screen of self back patting for what they did in the past.

Once the good, and in many cases paying customers leave, and this game gets a bad reputation in the online gaming world, there will be no guarantee that previous customers will return let alone new ones join. When it is realized and cleaned up, can the site stay afloat long enough paying salaries, servers and other expenses to float the site until the customer base is revived, if revived at all? Is that an experiment you'd be comfortable with?

Over the past few months, I have watched dozens of games I have played on for years shut down due to two reasons. The first, the beehive ruining the game. The other is those who own and run the game in a way that they feel they own the game and can just do whatever they want with a screw you type of attitude towards their customers. They often want big profits sometimes keep prices of things in game insanely high and fail to hear their customers saying we aren't buying because your prices are too high or we don't like how you treat us. The owners in some cases will start jerking around the game in ways that mess up the customers game in attempts to force money out of their customers. They seem to not care out it effects the games of those who play there. It's unfairly and sketchy and only causes a bleed out of those who once loved to play the game. Both are something I've been trying to communicate to the community and OOO for a long time. OOO is currently in both of those scenarios.

There is a site I played on for 4 maybe 5 years. (Yes, I got it. The sk community insists that I and no one else is suppose to play anywhere for more then 2 years and at that point it's okay to kick you out the door.) I loved the game and became friends with owners and staff. It broke my heart to see what was going on there. It brought tears to my eyes, especially when the graphic artist told me how badly it hurt him. It may have even made the owners and staff question their own and each others sanity during and after. I've been seeing exactly what occurred there happen here, up to and including the hate of the game, owners, developers, staff and all they do wrong. Then, when the site finally did close a few months ago and the forum remained the love they have/had for the game and site came gushing out of them just like in those goodbye threads to Nick. I've been watching history repeat itself here on sk, so much so, it makes my skin crawl. My mind and heart have been hurting so badly with this they are almost bleeding. People here see that as me being angry rather than seeing me as a history teacher. I really hope as history repeats it ends with a different out come. But I really don't believe that to be impossible.

Sat, 01/18/2014 - 16:03
#21
Zeddy's picture
Zeddy

I'd love to see Ian in charge, personally.

Sat, 01/18/2014 - 16:55
#22
Krakob's picture
Krakob
@Iamnoone

I never said that everyone who has ever visited the forums should be running this game. Every community has bad members and every community has good members.

Sun, 01/19/2014 - 02:35
#23
Fehzor's picture
Fehzor

@Iamnoone

Am I? Am I? Am I? Do I get to be on the "troll squad" that's killing the game? Am I the big reason Spiral Knights hasn't taken off?

Sun, 01/19/2014 - 02:46
#24
Skayeth's picture
Skayeth
XD

Fehzor isn't even close to the troll squad. Ever heard of Annilaton, Sirius and Xtweeterx? Maybe Bitsbee can help. NOT.

Sun, 01/19/2014 - 03:07
#25
Midnight-Dj's picture
Midnight-Dj
@senkimist

....You are not fooling anyone anniliton, I know a sex changed troll when i see one...

Sun, 01/19/2014 - 08:51
#26
Skayeth's picture
Skayeth
:/

Who the hell is Annilaton? I've only heard of him. :/ How am I a girl? This is my profile pic. Profile pic. And Senkimist is a boy name. Otherwise I would call myself Senkii, or Senkimisti.
I mean Seiran himself changed his name to Tenkii.
No I'm not Annilaton, or AAnnilaton.

Sun, 01/19/2014 - 09:45
#27
Hexzyle's picture
Hexzyle

@Annilaton/Senkimist
You fail:

http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/92978
http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/92938#comment-828368
http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/94008#comment-840559
http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/94877#comment-849230

And that's just 4 of 67 instances where someone has responded to "Annilaton" when "Senkimist" is in the thread.
If you hadn't spammed the forums so much, you'd be far more difficult to track.

Sun, 01/19/2014 - 15:56
#28
Xtweeterx's picture
Xtweeterx
@Hexzyle

That, and a name change seems to have failed.

http://steamcommunity.com/id/Tweet/screenshot/504702189375115428

Sun, 01/19/2014 - 18:50
#29
Skold-The-Drac's picture
Skold-The-Drac
(insert drawing here)

(insert OOO drawing straws/ swinging leviathans about)

(insert random newcomer with generic disposition and usual "I love my friends" carp, beating them all)

Sun, 01/19/2014 - 20:31
#30
Thunderskull's picture
Thunderskull
Lead Designer

Will obviously be Chris Lum or Jordan Collie since they are already TRUSTED by their peers. It's who will fill in for 3rd dev even if at all?

Sun, 01/19/2014 - 23:43
#31
Aplauses's picture
Aplauses

Annilation, you can't run from us.

Never.

Mon, 01/20/2014 - 03:20
#32
Zaffy-Laffy's picture
Zaffy-Laffy

And I'm like, obviously Ardent-Light is Sirius, but no one believes me D:

You win this round Sirius-Light

Mon, 01/20/2014 - 18:48
#33
Stormguardia's picture
Stormguardia
I don't care who but Whoever

I don't care who but Whoever is gonna be the new lead developer I hope his/her skills surpass that of nick's(if possible)

Mon, 01/20/2014 - 19:06
#34
Sandwich-Potato's picture
Sandwich-Potato

Wait wait wait wait wait.

People thought Senkimist WASN'T Annilaton?

If Luguiru became part of the staff, I would do the following:

-Laugh with joy.
-Commit suicide.
-If there's an afterlife, repeat the above two.

Mon, 01/20/2014 - 19:37
#35
Ardent-Light's picture
Ardent-Light
No, no, no. All wrong.

I am not Annilation nor Sirius-Boltmaker. Someone completely unsuspected...

Mon, 01/20/2014 - 21:14
#36
Navarchus's picture
Navarchus
Previous CEO of EA would do.

Previous CEO of EA would do.

Mon, 01/20/2014 - 22:16
#37
Skayeth's picture
Skayeth
._.

DO YOU BELIEVE IN MAGIC?!

-A SK Scientist and Philosopher whose name starts with Hex and ends with Zyle. You will never figure it out....

Mon, 01/20/2014 - 22:36
#38
Xtweeterx's picture
Xtweeterx
One quiestion.

Who's Luguiru?

Mon, 01/20/2014 - 23:26
#39
Glad-Amparus's picture
Glad-Amparus
^

He'll make you so jelly. Best not know the almighty box.

Tue, 01/21/2014 - 01:24
#40
The-Worst-Knight's picture
The-Worst-Knight
Ian McConville

Ian McConville

Tue, 01/21/2014 - 07:36
#41
Iamnoone's picture
Iamnoone
^

I'd like to see that or any promotion from within then the hiring of a new staff member for that position became vacant from the promotion.

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