Sadly, a whole bunch of Steam achievements also lost their timestamps in the process. So much for being able to see when I first reached the rescue camp.

Roarmulus Twins achievement is the only boss one with the timestamp still attached. Consistency would have been nice.

Figures.

Its been a long time. I cant wait for the new content.

Im comin home

So I have 3 questions.

1) Will unique battle sprite reskins have a reskin to their abilities.
2) Will permanent gremlin disguise be introduced at some point. (I really need it and so does my gun pup :/)
3) Are promos going to be reintroduced in more friendly way other than just pure money demanding boxes (or cr demanding boxes in AH), like throw them as a seriously rare items in the casino wheels, a very rare outcome.

I am superbly glad to see Spiral Knights will live on, it's one of my favorite games.

Wasnt Grey Haven's purpose to keep OOO games up and running?
If so i dont think we need further clarification "No-More-Starlight".
Im also quite sure that Grey Havens does indeed own the IP.

No answers. Told us to post in this thread SIX days after one of those two threads were created.

Well, i guess they are trying to cut down on the number of threads due to the high activity of these foru- oh wait. Nevermind.

Yes delicious answers.

- There are no plans to close the game down

Ty

EDIT: Oh and I've also hit the spending limit apparently. Still waiting for a reply on raising it :x

This could be great news but all depends on what the team is wiling to put in it. This game has always had potential; but it's possible that the last team who was running the show just didn't see it and therefor had no positive vision for it - moreover clearly the case! You guys understand, listening to the players is not the key to making this game great (again?). I think I have seen this game go in a lot of different directions that made it "odd" to play, the theam was changing - way. too. much. I think if the game was focused on being more serious instead of jacking around with cupcakes, pillows, mittens, cooking utensles, squirt guns and "summer fun" I and friends could start playing it again. For instance: PVP with a little touch ups would be the best thing ever; the boss fighter were also very good, and things like the the Grasping Plateau, solstice, katclysmic, etc. etc. However the "plunging into summer with squirt guns", and things like selebrating spiral knights anniversary with cupcakes really flops everything. You can't be apart of a worldwhere one day your fighting Mr. Evil Cupcake and the next you running through the grasping plateau. Getting the picture yet??. Those events are childish and truly take away from spiral Knights - you cannot take a game with serious competition when your hitting players with pillows, squirting the king of ashes with a water gun, fighting enemy's with things you dad grills with on Sunday's, and wearing cupcakes on your head. Those things make me want to quit, but the only thing that keeps me going are the boss fights and pvp. DONT GET ME WRONG, I'm all for the gelly theam and borderline the Santa gelly, but if this game continues to dumb down gameplay and fails for bring in older players AGAIN, the game will flop once and for all. That's just the reality of it folks.

That's a great angle also, if the game would cater to the people who had money rather then the kid's PARENTS money the game would survive. And this game could easily achieve such goal, but one thing that must be done is for PVP being a pryority and use new missions to reshape the game. Old missions would also need an edit of course. Oh, and one other thing please NO MORE RESKINS!

I personally like the style of the game, even though it seems childish it is a very unique childish style which is what I love about it. Yes the only people who NEED AT are people still learning controls but if they are the only ones that need AT then why do half the people who play LD use AT?

To me those silly weapons are nice to have, I think it is funny to hit players with pillows that kill in like 4 hits and killing vanna with a water gun and even wearing a cupcake on your head. Those are things that I really like in the game aside from the story line(wish they would finish it) and all the things you can do with your knight.

for me I like the game just like it is.

"You can't be apart of a worldwhere one day your fighting Mr. Evil Cupcake and the next you running through the grasping plateau."

Oh? Surely you can, else we couldn't possibly have done so in-game.

There is nothing wrong with seriousness and silliness co-existing side by side. Should you actually take a look at reality, you will realize that it is already the case; a fact that is naturally reflected in the fiction we humans create.

During the early year SK was great. Now, it's just a big bunch of randomness that is very annoying.

Players generally overestimate the "good old days" and how different they are from today. Spiral Knights was pretty "random" even in 2011. The Royal Jelly was comical and Vanaduke was scary. We had wizard clothes (Magic), ninja weapons named after Greek mythology (Acheron), cowboy clothes (Gunslinger), and references to San Francisco cops (Callahan). It's always been a crazy mishmash.

Spiral Knights will continue to fail until they cater to older gamers who can actually appreciate organized and quality gameplay with diversity and uniqueness between players.

Please notice that I am not disagreeing with this part of your post.

The old days are overrated. The game came a long way and has far more to offer now; perhaps the only element that really didn't deserve to disappear was the gate mineral system. Everything else is still available should you decide to ignore missions and go for a good ol' arcade run.

"I don't know how old you are, but that could be the explanation."

I'm 20 years old at the moment, but does that really explain anything? To dismiss ideas on the basis of age is a logical fallacy. Even under the assumption that they lack experience behind them, they are still ideas produced through logical thought and thus are valid to be argued accordingly.

"Spiral Knights will continue to fail until they cater to older gamers who can actually appreciate organized and quality gameplay with diversity and uniqueness between players."

And in all honesty? It already does. I myself am across three different knights: a tactical literal handgun specialist posing as a special forces operator, a bomb-tossing mass-destruction-loving madman, and a cutter/shooter with too much GunZ K-Style influence and misplaced Puzzle Pirates nostalgia; all created with the intent of using Battle Sprites to their maximum efficiency.
If that isn't an appreciation of organized and quality gameplay with diversity and uniqueness between players, then I don't know what is.

The gameplay and quality could be a lot better. The past year and a half of SK has been about making quick, crappy, and messy content - not exactly all of it, but most, so that they could milk our pockets. Instead of focusing on endless reskins and such, why not spend ALL of that time making genuine new content and balancing/different weapons, etc. etc. The reason is because SK is failing because 7-12 year old allowances does not cover the cost. A lot of the older and more serious players don't care that much about skins - they want well-thought-out story missions, well-thought-out boss fights, and even a growing PVP experience.

There's implications of death in SK. Sometimes, you're sent on a mission to find missing knights, and you find them laying motionless at the end of the level.

I noticed that the Steam Summer Sale had a Featured F2P section for games with DLCs that were recently released. I think just having more marketing would be powerful for SK, it'd be great to see SK included among those games. Once people remember "Oh yeah, SK exists... and it's actually in active development now?", they'll start coming back, not to mention the players who've never heard of SK, given that most marketing and public awareness was made years ago.

Lol I never realized three rings is a LOTR reference, I remember seeing the grey havens logo for the first time and saying: "Kinda reminds me of LOTR"

Who had said that it was so brilliant as that?

lol 2 years and nothing has changed besides sleep (something that already existed) being reintroduced.
simply epic

I appreciate all the efforts of the team keeping this wonderful game alive. To be able to revisit this game that I too have spent years into is a wonder.
However, I feel the main issue why it's difficult to return is that there doesn't seem to be an actual goal past getting a full 5 star kit and doing missions. Whilst this won't be quick if going pure f2p, it still reaches a point where you ask, ' well, what now?'
I think that a good way of keeping people going past this point is something like a leaderboard system. Rewards are given to players from a variety of categories (like no. of boss runs, cr earned, levels completed). This is somewhat similar to the player feed about friends activity but in a more formal fashion. To allow chances to newer players, there are separate tables for each tier, of which matches the tier you would, for example, queue for Lockdown. Implementing this, I feel that there's more draw to play each day/week/month and this acts as a good stepping stone for future updates. It also encourages more competitive spirit.
Further to this point, I think introducing a Player Records sort of system would be quite valuable. This would include things like fastest clear of a level, for both individual and top records ever set with public announcement whenever these top records are broken. This would help to draw away some of the tedium one has grinding the same level repeatedly yet not change anything about the level itself. This further adds more interest and repeatability on all of the levels out there, not just boss levels. Guilds can use the number of records they hold to further stand out and possibly attract more members.
These are just suggestions but I hope my point is clear. I don't think this kind of update is as intensive as a full blown new map or mini game so I believe that it wouldn't be too pressing on the Grey Havens team should they decide to explore into this idea. Would this be possible?

Anyway, thanks for reading and feel free to correct me if I'm wrong somewhere.

@Calyos

You say that, but GH is showing small signs of life. They confirmed/implied during the Aerodynamic's Box that there was a lot of behind-the-scenes fiddling that they had to do when the game moved companies, so I'll give GH a pass for the lack of changes. Furthermore, the box itself had a series of animation tweaks that we have never seen before: Chaff Packs adding sparks to dashes, helms that lower their visor when blocking, and the Airbraker Shield which animated out when blocking. I suspect they still have a few more levers they can tweak for additions.

I'm very curious about the next few changes. Either the game will continue to stagnate, or we might see a second wind. That said, I don't expect it to drop dead any time soon. SK has been "about to drop dead" for like 5 years now, and I'm not expecting that to change.

Also, another idea I had is to develop the Core, being the final floor and heart of the Clockworks.
As is, you reach the end and it says '[you've reached the end]' and you stare at the core before going back to Haven. This ties back to my earlier point on how there's nothing left to do past full kit and full mission completion. If there was a cinematic reaching the core for the first time as well as another of the recording capsules you get after beating the bosses, it helps to reinforce the story of SK which seems to have been lost into the Clockworks....
Even leaving the map itself the same and not giving rewards, giving some story related relevance and significance makes it all the more interesting to reach that point.
My main point here is that a lot of what may have drawn in players to begin with are lost within the grind of materials and boss runs; stuff like the background story. The missions, when they were introduced, greatly fleshed out more of a story which was great. However they slowly felt like the next task you had to do rather than the next chapter in a story. SK still has lots of potential for a game, even at this point. From the context, battle mechanics to social events within the community which many old players most notably remember the game for, I believe that it could still rise again if not to the same levels at its peak.