Very nice, and also while we are on the topic of anxety attacks and the like. For some reason my phone won't let me get to the Treasure Vault. But my PC lets me. I almost started to worry when it wouldn't let me, thought I had gotten kicked from the forums.

Yes, this could actualy be a realy good oportunity for you to flesh out Melvin's backstory.

On another note, since were going to hang aroung this village for a while, I suggest we think of what non-combat clothes our characters might be wearing in the future. I mean, maybe Ash Tail coats turn out to be super-comfy, but even then, It makes no sense that we'd wear the same gear every day.

It doesnt have to be full-civilian attires, but as the story goes foward, it will be logical that our char's will deviate from the equipment they were deployed with. Customizations, chopping off some weight to make constant use less tiring, a change of colors and profile to gather more friendly looks from the villagers, patches from damaging attacks, even time wearing down the gear we have. It would look wierd if we'd still be using the same stuff 2 years from now, aside from Kokkinos, whose armor seems to have been built to last, and an exception or two for our weapons.
Also, in a storytelling perspective, I think that a very good way to tell how much the characters have changed is by showing how their wardrobes changed.

As far as Kokkinos gear is, its mean to be graphed and molded with the physical augmentations. Thanks to Morai being known (going of what Thin as described them like before) for 'Making' soldiers instead of training them, the Armor attaches to what could only be described as neural-interface connections. He was one big weakness, they all do, a strong enough hit to the neck and his own armor could kill him with out any help. Thanks to blunt force Trama messing with the neural network this would/could send black outs causing the armor to stop working weighing him down, it could twist and contort breaking arms/legs/spine. No matter how protected the back of the neck, if some one has enough force to cause him to black out/get knocked out via a hit to the back of the neck.

As far as shelter and what not, Kokkinos has his house which has been their for a good number of years so their is that for protection, other wise it will be what ever the Morai where using for protection/camping. He has some spare civy cloths but nothing meant for...average sized people.

Perhaps I have miss read then and perhaps this has been part of story lines that have jumped from one to another. In short from what I understand they are about as well equipped as the Spirals, sure more man power, and with that man power they are able to afford the experimentation on a select group. Really spoiled for choice when it comes to it. Now as far as their willingness to run into battle empty handed, perhaps that more along the lines of a show of force, they are willing to make plays that are reckless and have no yelled but still a show of force in size of the arm.

Also take into account, from my prospective, not yours because you might have known him longer/been in more of his RPs then me, but the general idea is they have the same level, just more men and willing to use that advantage to press or just show a sign of force. Again I could be wrong, I could be half right, who knows (Thin does) but my point is, Relax.

Also, take to the same side of the coin. It would be reactionary deployment to the Spiral Warden, which we can make the same call thanks to their armor. (Which if you can recall I have gone into Detail with Daud's armor and Thin never called me out since I am basing all this off the fact that the Armor the Spiral's have does have some kinda on board computer that is connected.) In this case its the other side, perhaps this Morai Warden program is more or less suppose to be the answer to the Wardens and they took captured Warden Armor and reversed it to work for them. Now they might also have Bio-Techs (much like the Spiral's) and since they do/if they do in this time line/have more people at their disposal then the might have taken into that mind set, ya lets try something to give out boys an edge over the battle field with this captured tech. . Now with that in-mind lets take it one step further Because of how hard/long it would take to make these knights (Assuming it would take a while with Augmentation and the armor being made to support such soldier's on the battle field) it would come to the logical mind that their arn't very many of them, on that note this armor for the knights who are experimented on would need to be heavy due to the time and over all investment in/on these knights. Which means the only logical idea would be to make some kinda interface that connects to the body to help movement while in the suit. Thus I took the idea of neural networking connection.

This being said it wouldn't be perfect, if it was perfect then the Neural-network connection wouldn't be hindered by being hit with enough force to cause a reverberation through the spin causing the feelings confusion, disorientation, dizziness (basically being detached from reality). In this line the neural-networking interface is failure, but is needed to aid in moving the armor around. This would also mean their would need to be more wires/lines for said movement to work thus the extra detail added about the armor's lines and connections. The major downside would be any damage to the neural-network its self, once that gets damaged that's it the system doesn't work any more because the system used that is connected to said network would be getting mixed signals and might cause unforeseen damages to the person.

Thus the suit would be rather heavily armored/seem more bulked. If we are going to take a sip of reality for a moment (Brace yourselves boys/ladies I am doing a frighten) if a company/Organization was going to take time to make this kinda output/items the are going to ad fail safes to ensure that whoever they trusted to use this equipment wouldn't die with in five seconds and let the enemies see their work up-close. Thus a main feature would be made to ensure the pilot (lets just use that for this) has a way of enduring, but the main way would be to augment the body so it could with stand some substantial hits, not something that is beyond the limits of the suit/would 1 hit kill anyway, but at least with the augmentations made to the body it would be able to stand up to what the suit could take before breaking. Being as the majority of battles between Morai and Spiral's where CQB (Do I have to explain that?) it would make since to ensure the pilot could withstand constant hits/pain as the suit would be able to take it as well. But of course the body can only take so much and this is where the augmentations come in, they help the pilot to tank those extra moments to endure a battle.

Now as far as clarification goes we will have to wait on Thin since most the lore in the events/RPs he hosts are some times twisted/altered/changed to match the feel of the over all narrative.

P.S.[made three minutes after original Posting]: If you make a Nitpicking (one word) 3.x or 4.x take into account this: Thinslayer has yet to correct or say anything to openly object to the statements I have posted, which means 1 of couple of things.

1.) Thin has yet to go and correct me which means yes its on me.
2.) Thin likes this and has some idea of how this might fit into his lore of the story/cannon of his (I presume) universal cast of story lines.
3.) This might be one of the ideas behind Morai army comp. in his story line.
4.) It would be for this version of the Morai Army comp. and they might be different than other tellings of his/others.

Now if your going to Nitpick some more, question Thin, not the actor's he has chosen for his play good Sir Knight.

Sigh. I'm just revealing story bit by bit, okay? Nobody is perfect, y'know.

Melvin didn't just kill the people because they knew he cheated. Though the death of the security guard was 'unintended'. Melvin just has some serious issues after the loss of his girlfriend, the name of whom will never be revealed in the story because I don't care enough.

A few posts in the RP and I decided that I didn't want Melvin to just be some ordinary loner.
I do my thing my way and you can do your thing your way, okay?

Oh and I'm misguided sometimes with sentence structuring, so don't nitpick with that, okay?

I think we need another large scale RP with players on both the Morai and Spiral side.
What I mean by that is something large enough that we can use it as a base for other stories-
Like a mass archive of what is and isn't.
That's not to say that we can't put in details that are wrong in other stories, because while they sometimes don't make sense, they are unique, themselves, and make the stories what they are.

I can sit through a character getting developed, in fact, if you skim through some of the earlier machinaut RP (page 1 to 20) and compare them with the present (page 50 and beyond), you could see a slow shift in Fallen King's personality, it is a subtle change and makes sense considering he was like an infant when he was reawakened from stasis, oblivious to the world around him, but as more and more memories are accumulated in his AI, the Fallen King became more bitter and resentful towards his enemies.

He turned from a naive knight into a grimdark robo space marine, I won't drown you in paragraphs but that is his overall transition as far as I saw it.

But I think there are some character transition that are simply impossible, educated or not. eg. You can't have a psychopath, who is already a lost cause, to suddenly start making rational and humane decisions. You can't have a little girl, who have no training in combat or magic, to suddenly know how to snipe. I think you get my point.

Another Nitpick

While I am probably not in the right to judge Thin's lore decisions, but I still have one problem, why is he using AD and BC to date the time line? (as in, After Jesus's death and Before Christ)

Why not use the more logical dating system? Such as using an event in SK lore as time zero, such as Skylark fall? So in another word, this RP would be taking place years before Skylark fall (so BSF) and the stories of knights on cradle would be dated as post skylark fall. (PSF)

Youre making the eluded assumption that Melvin is a psychopath, and not in fact a person with traumas, which by the way is not nearly close to sociopathy or some severe ilness, but it's still enough to make an average person do terrible things should conditions go dire. Blazecat did get a little haphazardous with how he wrote his moments of cracking, but still, Melvin is a scarred person, nothing more.
And before you ask what kind of person shoots a man in the face over a poker game, outlaws do things of equal nature multiple times, but they're not necessarily all psychos, they're just desensitized of their own actions.

If he was just a nuthead, there would be no point in having him here other than kill people, and if that was what Blaze was going for, he wouldnt have bothered to write his inner toughts, he'd just have shown him killing Morai whitout a tear to shed. That's not what he wrote.

Also, Midnight, I'll have to tell you that Fallen King isnt such a good example when it comes to character development. Sure, there's a lot about his past that has been shown, but in his interactions with others he's still the same White Knight as back when he woke up. Character development is more than just reinforcing why one behaves, it's also how ones behavior changes with what is seen, and Fallen hasnt changed one bit. He just knows what names to curse against now.

While Melvin is unconscious, my actions are not included for your self-imposed cooldowns.

He is having a terrible nightmare and will likely be waking up any time soon.

I think once were in Kokkino's house, it would be reasonable for you to wake up. Unless we get attacked on the way there.

-frick

The year is actually 3030...

Oh-oh. Well, Pehron's definitely not going to come out of cover to grab it, that's for sure.

I can already see Violet stumbling upon it next morning and claiming the blade as her own, even if just to get a chance to annoy Melvin.

Hmmm, speaking of morning, Thin, do you plan to have the spooky forces of the night that are threatening the team also clean up the town from all the bodies and their weapons? Because if not, I leave it as a suggestion. Since we've started dweling with the supernatural, might as well have it conveniently move all the bodies away, AND take their weapons too so we dont have to worry about a whole town of morai villagers arming themselves with military-grade armaments.

AND take their weapons too so we dont have to worry about a whole town of morai villagers arming themselves with military-grade armaments.

I am pretty sure arming them is for the better, since their weapons will turn on them soon enough, imagine killing a village without firing a single shot. Although it is entire possible that Thinslayer is trying make some kind of bible analogy here, I wouldn't be surprised if the whole idea is that you are stranded in this village with what might be the last human population on the planet if not the universe and you are been judged by some kind of god's surrogate *entering Thinslayer's self-insert here* and get to go to heaven and hell respectively depending on your actions.

@Thin

Come on now, I have long time ago past the point of hating you Thin, I can't hate you for every single second of my life (because I have other more annoying things to direct my hatred towards). In fact, I am quite amused by all of this, I mean, you are not really making prediction hard. I always knew something supernatural will happen considering all of the neat picks I have told you earlier, by making some educated guesses I made the conclusion that none of you described is conceivable in a world bound by our current scientific understanding.

In fact, I already stopped neatpicking on the story world that you are building when you stated : "Military doctrine on Isora doesn't include much in the way of air superiority. Aerial bombs and fighter aircraft are gravely underdeveloped."

Seriously Thin?! I mean, I know you may not be most devoted of sci-fi fan but this?! REALLY?! What are the two of the biggest weaknesses of a large, lumbering, void faring vessel in almost any sci-fi universe (star wars, star trek and Warhamer 40K)? I will give you a hint: it is boarding parties and swarms of smaller, expandable star fighters. The fact that Spiral Order would have large ships like Skylark running around without good fighter escort to deal with the weaknesses I have stated is ludicrous, Spiral Order simply wouldn't have survived as a void faring civilization if these mistakes were made. And the fact that the Spiral Order would ignore air superiority as a modern army is crazy, ALL ARMIES ON EARTH TODAY recognize the importance of it.

ps. I needed to draw you out from hiding somehow and this is honestly the only way I know how, the people who stuck with you for all these years (ie, darkwatck) deserve an answer from you after such a long hiatus and I think they also deserve a better narrative for their RPs, considering if this kind of stuff happen on cradle (just swap Morai villagers for Gremlins and woolah) it would make sense since ghosts do exist in the clockwork.

And since there's nothing hinting that the Spiral Order is inherently inclined to spacefaring, they could very well have to rely on ground-side warfare.

While it might be true that spiral order weren't inclined to go travel in space, but as necessity(Morai war) is the mother of invention, my point still stand, there is no way the Isoran can build large void faring vessel if they can't even make good fighters. The technology needed for both types of space craft ultimately correlate to each other, building skylark with your fighter technology woefully behind would be like trying to build a submarine without knowing how to build a raft. Or build a tank without understanding the nuance of armor.

Nobody set it in stone that big lumbering vessels are inevitably weak to boarding parties and small fighter craft.

Skylark could very well have AA guns that can pick down any little ship that tries to get close.

Fine, I will give you a real world example then since you are not convinced, remember battleship Yamato? How was she sunk? By many bombers and fighters from the US air craft carriers. Sure, Yamato was bristled with AA guns but they weren't enough, enough bombers still slipped through to deliver a killing blow, thousands of Japanese seamen died that day with only minor casualty on the USA side. Now imagine this same thing happening to skylark, it doesn't matter if she was covered head to toe with AA guns, if many squadrons of fighters attack skylark at multiple direction she is still screwed when her fire power is spread out. And Skylark is worse off than Yamato since she will be attacked from ALL side, not just from above, but below as well since it is in space.

And don't forget, boarding parties and fighters may not the be all end all weakness of large void vessels, but they can weaken or cripple the vessel in question before the large vessels on the enemy side swoop in and take the kill. One way or another, Skylark needs escort of some sort if she wants to survive prolonged void battle.

You do realise that one of the main things Spiral Knights has going for in it's worldbuilding is that it mixes magic with technology, right?

So if Cradle can support magic, it's because many other worlds out there can too.

The world of SK, the one we are playing only has one planet, and that is cradle. Cradle could be just a space anomaly, as in, one and only planet that support magic. And also, if Isoran knows about magic and the super natural, then why would they be surprised when they encountered undead and fiends in the clockwork? Or be surprised that cradle exists at all? And what if the magic you stated were simply lost science? Technology long lost, far too advanced for the present day people to comprehend, hence dubbing it 'magic'?

I mean, I am waiting for something/some one to go active. As it currently stands we are making our way into the town's Square, this would be prime time for Thin to go active but his current situation is not the best so, we might as well push till he does post something en?

Allright, then. I see how it is. You're thinking you can apply conventional navy concepts to starships.

When talking about space-warfare, people often think about ships whizzing by eachother at close distances, but the variables of movement and sight are wildly different in space compared to an ocean. Ships have no obligation or advantage in sticking close to eachother, because theyre moving trough orbits that are BILLIONS of kilometers long, in an enviroment (or the lack of one) where one can be spoted regardless of how distant he is, where positioning in the conventional sense is completely pointless and where bullets suffer no air friction to be slowed down.
The only limitation to sight in space is light-lag, which could only be exploited if ships were somehow fighting in FTL flight, and the very rare object you could try to hide on would only work if you could work out how you'll manage to keep your infrared emissions from sticking up like a sore thumb against the cold 4 Kelvin (-269 Celcius degrees) of empty space.

Therefore, in space targets can get spotted by just the slightest heat they emmit. You could see a bomber flying towards you from halfway across the system, and considering the reduced amount of balistic variables to worry about, you could fire at it almost as soon as you saw it. And that's assuming you're being a sportsman and arent using lasers, which would hit (relatively) immediately. Of course, things like overheating and effective range would limit the firing, but still, the gaps a ship would have to close would be thousands of kilometers, at least. And without anything to hide behind, because space is empty (duh), and asteroid belts arent as crowded as George Lucas made them out to be.

When it's said that space is huge, it also means that things like maneuvering room, firing ranges and distances in general are allowed to scale up to hundreds of thousands of kilometers in outer space, maybe even millions, when it comes to ship-to-ship interactions.

Also, futuristic Anti-Air doesnt have to work the same way it works now. Lasers arent limited to shooting down ships, they could shoot down the projectiles too. Or rather, pulverize them into harmless dust. Considering the distances, nukes would be an option too.

There's not much point to making small ships, because maneuvering doesnt mean much (as in, theres enough time between firing and contact for big and small ships to move with equal ease), you cant count on "closing the gap" like you can in a planet's surface and youre inevitably dissolving your firepower by spreading it in smaller ships, as opposed to bigger ones. Now I'm not saying it should be only one juggernaut-like ship, but it shouldnt be escorted by bloody fighters either. Unless you establish the hipotesis that commom firepower is so devastating that armor and other defensive measures a bigger ship could afford wouldnt matter anymore.
By the way, I've come to realize Thin only talked about air superiority. That's atmospheric vessels, not nessesarily aerospacial. The Spirals could have good spaceships, maybe they just choose not to commit to having craft made just to glide and hover on an atmosphere. And no, spacecraft dont have to double as aeronautic craft to be legitmate.

Granted, an author can very well (most do) circunvent all of this and just assume people fight in tight-knit fighter jets that have pointless wings and shoot dumbfire torpedoes and get along just fine (AKA Star Wars), but that doesnt mean you can just assume anyone has to abide to your intuition of what would apply to fighting in space.

(tl;dr)
First, making analogies between WW2-era battleships and hipothetical interstellar space-warship military doctrine is completely pointless, because the variables that dictate things in deep space and on a planet's ocean are completely different in nature and scale.

Second, and as I've just said, the variables are wildly different, so you cant confirm that one must be able to build fighter craft before being capable of building population-carrying starships. Mainly because, unlike in our current time of airplanes, fighters and giant colonization ships dont have to be moved around or maintained by the same technology.

And finaly, I wrote every single comment since you started this nit-pick frenzy just to get to this:
The creator can do whatever he wants with the reality of the world he builds. If you want to discuss the realism of it all, fine, but dont do it if you actualy just want to comment on the overall quality of his writing. If you want to criticise his writing, focus on the methods, not what he is writing about.

I wrote for about 2 hours and then all of the work was deleted, so I will make make it quick:

@Thinslayer

*Orbital bombardment would destroy the nearby civilian population as well as the [secret special mcguffin] that the Spiral Order wanted to obtain.

Then the primary concept behind the story is established - generals on both sides of the fight are embarrassed at having lost so many men over so little that they silently agree to forget about it, leaving the few left behind to fend for themselves.

Wait, the Spiral Order is just going to leave the McGuffin there for the Morai to keep? Why not just deny Morai their prize by blowing it up and just forget about civilian loss? Hey, they decided to forget about their soldiers so why care about the civilians? Besides, it is not like there would be any witness since everyone is dead, or are going to die from the copious amount of ghosts. (in fact, they would be doing the villagers a service by reliving them of this terrible life.)

Nobody's ever seen the Spiral Knights fly airplanes, let alone dogfight in them, so it seems plausible to conclude that they haven't focused much on aerial flight development.

Nobody's ever seen the core's true form, or if it even had one, but somehow you conclude that its spirit should manifest itself into the shape of a white haired girl who goes around killing petty criminals with psi-blades? Sheesh, Thin, make up your mind, you want to stick to the lore, DO IT, if not, don't pretend you are loyal to the SK lore. I mean, it is not unlikely that Skylark may once had an entire hangar of fighters that were lost when she was blown to bits. And it is not like fighters are useful in the clockwork since most of the fighting are subterranean even if they were salvaged.

@Magmaul

Stealth ships are a thing in your sci-fi universes. There is no unified sci-fi storytelling law that dictates every sci-fi universe has to have stealth devices for starships. There's no confirming SK has them (for ships, dont you dare point to the Recon's cloaking device), either.

Wait, why are you defeating your own argument? If spiral order can cloak a knight I am sure the same technology can be up-sized. I think what you and Thin have forgotten (no pun intended) is the most fundamental concept of warfare, both sides of the war will try to constantly one-up each other in terms of technology, to quote commissioner Gordon from Batman begins: "We get semi-automatics, they get automatics, we get bulletproof vest, they get armor piercing rounds.'

It will just be a matter of time before some ship maker thought, "Hey, wouldn't it be a cool idea if we had a ship that can kill other ships without them ever be able to fight back?"

You can apply the same logic with drop ships, sure, Spiral Order can focus on them to their heart content, but when going up against Morai AA, perhaps it would be good to have some fighter escort to distract if not destroy the AA emplacements? And this won't temper with the story line since like all wars, mistakes were made, maybe the fighter escort weren't enough, they ran out of fuel and returned to base, Morai AA were too strong ect. ect. ect.

We've progressed from huts to buildings, and huts may have one thing or another in commom with civil engineering, but do you see people living in huts in the middle of a city? No, you dont. Because we dont have to build huts anymore.

We do still build huts, especially after an earthquake or if you are trying survive in the wild. You should think of technology like learning, just because you are a professor in mathematics, it doesn't mean you will stop making a shopping list by using simple pluses and minuses.

how would Thin give us a deep exposition of the village's culture so early?

A good writer tells a story, a great writer makes a world and have the story tells itself. Thinslayer doesn't need to give you a long exposition to give you a good context/nuance about the world (and from what I have seen, he is perfectly capable of, credit where credit is due).

Would you like it if you were reading The Hobbit and Gandalf tried to explain Bilbo EVERYTHING about the world on the first talk they ever had? Then calm down and wait for the story to unfold, if you care so much about it.

You do realize Hobbit would have ended on chapter one if Gandalf told Bilbo the peril that he is about to be in (it involves dragons)? I am all for using plot devices and trope in a novel if they are done right, but Thinslayer is not writing a novel, he is making a RP, a fluid story with other living people tagging along, so I would say a stable foundation of lore is not too much to ask.

I don't care much about the story that is about to unfold (I can predict and unlike before, I don't have to play along). But I think after all the failed RPs, Thinslayer could learn from his mistakes and spend more effort to polish his narrative and make the RPer feel like they are in an organic world. But this RP didn't start strong IMHO, so let's hope for your sake, Thinslayer picks up the slack. (judging from my past experience, it is a honestly a 50/50 chance)

KV-103: "Human, you haven't done spilling all of your guts on that insolent machinaut with a gun puppy as companion just yet. Keep going!!!"

Me: "Meh, I think at this point we are just treading on old ground now, I mean, he is just keep going on about temperature in space, sure, hiding the energy signature of a massive space ship is a challenge in space, but space is not just empty, it has suns, asteroid and other planets in it, each with its own energy signature that will inevitably interfere with any methods of detection, and I am sure the stealth technology doesn't need to be perfect to be able to achieve an element of surprise. Signal dampening technology already exists, just need some refinement that is all... and that is if advanced EMP and Ion weapons weren't invented to deprive the enemies of their detection to begin with. But those are going way off topic..."

KV-103: "I am sure the xenos filth that is the Isorans are eager to get there hands on a stealth machinaut, but they would have to get trough me to get a hold of one of those..."

Me: "Do you even know where those things are hidden?"

KV-103: "Cradle is a big place, I am sure my fore bearers have found the right spot."

Me: "You know, speaking of the right spot, I think darkwatck missed his... why does he even bother writing in a random language he made up on the spot? No one understands it, not even Thin. I mean, narrative wise, it makes sense since English is not Kokkinos's first language but boy is it annoying to see those unnecessary words in between the action, because they literally serves no purpose to the story nor do they build on Kokkinos's character, not a single bit. I am simply glad you don't talk to me in Gremlin, Fallen king, because that would be really annoying..."

KV-103: "Trust me, Gremlin don't pronounce well, the Isoran at our base camp complained that it sounds like nails scratching on a chalk board."

The reason I am using Greek over any other language is because it seems Three Rings (may the rest in peace) had a habit of using Greek names, meanings, and even slang in their story/names/and even to an extent some descriptions.

Wait, if OOO staff appears in the game as Spiral Knights, wouldn't it be technically more fitting if the Isoran were the ones who spoke Greek? And Morai spoke Persian (gotta love that 300 reference), actually, that would be very thematic now that I think about it.