Now you ignore the MMO part

I'm not ignoring the MMO part. Out of the online multiplayer games, TF2 is above Spiral Knights.

MMO stands for Massively Multiplayer Online (game). TF2 is not a Massively Multiplayer Online game. It's just a regular mulitplayer online game. I cannot say whether TF2 or Spiral Knights had more players online on a given day (I'd imagine TF2 would win most days), but I can say that TF2 is not the most-played mmo on steam, because it does not belong in that category.

Methinks people are confusing an MMO (Massively Multiplayer Online) game with MMORPG (Massively Multiplayer Online Role-Playing Game), which SP falls on the latter and the former encompasses games that can be played online with many other players at a given time (hence 'Massively Multiplayer') like TF2.

"either way, saying "SK is the biggest MMO" on steam is utterly uselesss..."
You saying that is utterly useless too since... noone said such a thing, stop trying to manipulate what i said.

Instead of being a smartass, why don't you actually read the context in which jooozek made the original statement. Someone was claiming that all the steam players had left the game. To which jooozek replied with the actual stats for the number of steam players on that day with the qualification that this was the most of any MMO on steam (that day). (i.e. he gave a context whether this number was high or low.)

This sort of renders your points 1 and 2 moot.

>...Now I wanna see a Snipe wearing a tiny plump Mender robe and hood.

The world couldn't handle it. Hell, it can't even handle gremlins without ruining them via Rula 34.

Understood, thank you for the information!

And, of course, for the update itself. I can think of a few people that were/are in need of improved low-graphics settings.

I'll have to check it out later today.

So, my take-away from the UV shop release notes is that all old UVs are going to be *MUCH* less popular, even a MAX UV. The chance of getting at least one UV that used to be considered very rare/very good has gone up significantly, and the now you can get up to three UVs, and there is a chance that more than one of those will be what was once considered very rare/very good. Yes, we won't be swimming in Very High ASI swords, but there will be more of them, and there will be ones that are not only VH ASI but med CTR and low damage vs Fiends also, all on the same sword.

People will keep re-rolling the UVs until they get something that is at least OK, then they will stop sinking more crowns into that item. The risk of destroying even an OK set of UVs is not worth it, it will be cheaper to try again on a newly crafted item and try to sell the one that wasn't so great. Instead of the AH being flooded with cheap non-UV equipment, it will be flooded with equipment with "bad" UVs.

I expect material prices to drop dramatically as people stop rage crafting for UVs, and crafting a much smaller number of items that will be taken to the UV shop once, twice or *maybe* three times. This will also lower the demand for CE for those lines that start on 3* and even those lines that start on 2* where people use CE instead of ME to craft.

This is going to be "interesting'....

Edit:
Oh, the other parts of the release!

Most of the stuff, I really like. I hope the new graphics changes helps my laptop and such. (It is within the publish hardware requirements, but effectively unplayable past T1.)

As far as unbinding, in many ways, I was really hoping you couldn't unbind stuff bought with tokens, trinkets, etc. i guess we will find out the details of stuff like that, along with prices, soon enough.

my time and energy. I've spent 100s of hours in this game amassing a small fortune through blood, sweat, and tears (chroma tears, even). And then, i finally spent that small fortune in the last couple of weeks. On items that were the best of the best of the best. Then, in one thoughtless, fail-swoop, my items were just completely marginalized in value.

And on a grander scheme, people have spent thousands of hours, and countless thousands of dollars, crafting up the best gear attainable. And now, with one update, all of the gear has been rendered second-rate. Don't get me wrong, its still good, effective gear, but it can be nothing less than second rate. As now someone is going to craft a max ctr calibur that is also low this and medium that.

Same with brandish. The prized possession in my spiral knight career, i finally bought a max ctr brandish to forge the ultimate archeron. but in a week from now, someone will have a max ctr archeron that is also med. slime and low fiend (or even better!).

i could go on, but instead i'll just /vent

p.s. i hope others who feel the same way will express their feelings as well, and i hope OOO will listen. Something as simple as giving us the option to buy one 3 UV roll on any peice of gear with a "save one UV" option would rectify the issue. Granted, i have no idea how easy/hard that'd be to program.

@Prizmat - Spiral Knights are clearly cyborgs. Up until now, they've had to use drops to keep their lidless eyes moistened. Now they don't have to carry the bottle around.

@OOO - Like I said above, the 3 UV option really kind of hoses any existing equipment. Maybe you could give everyone a chance to roll for extra UVs on one item they currently own? Or two items?

game screwed me and many people over. rage done. hope there is a fix.

Its all about patience, if you are willing to wait you can always get a better deal on just about anything. I bought my laptop two years ago and now when I go look for a new laptop I see that I can buy computers that are twice as fast for half the cost; does this mean the computer store should reimburse me? No, I bought what I wanted, when I wanted it, and I'm not going to whine about how my stuff is going to decrease in value over time.

This happens in pretty much every single MMO that gets end-game content updates, the awesome item a player spend so much time and effort in obtaining is rendered useless when the level cap is increased by 5 and a new awesome items lies in some dungeon to be obtained. Does this make all previous effort worthless? Possibly, but the player also got to enjoy the best end-game item for however long before the end-game update.

I think it was slipped for a long time that we could get 3 UVs on an item. The player pills on the ignored list shows three little UV symbols. I figured the gremlin update would unlock the other UV slots by being able to add additional UVs to an item, never considered that it would erase the old ones though. Nice surprise that crafted items can get multiple UVs now.

Nick obviously loves UVs.

I agree with Prizmat and I'm surprised people are wasting time pondering about UV re-rolls and unbinding when there is blinking that's coming!
C'mon it's the most awesome feature since release! I can't wait to blink for the first time.
My fellow guild mate - Dcurd - has been wondering recently how blinking will affect energy market. This is a question that every sensible knight should be asking now.

But seriously. I'm also surprised there were people out there desperately hunting for UV gear and ready to waste (yes - waste) vast amount of time and money on such madness. I've never done it. That's why I'm ok with an update. The pressure of "being the best" or rather "having the best" is infantile at best.

@philidor
Same with brandish. The prized possession in my spiral knight career, i finally bought a max ctr brandish to forge the ultimate archeron. but in a week from now, someone will have a max ctr archeron that is also med. slime and low fiend (or even better!).

So what? Please tell me what happen when someone will have archeron "better" then yours. Are you gonna explode? Take it easy.

And on a grander scheme, people have spent thousands of hours, and countless thousands of dollars, crafting up the best gear attainable. And now, with one update, all of the gear has been rendered second-rate.

That's how "spending thousands of hours, and countless thousands of dollars, crafting up the best gear attainable" usually ends. In game and real life alike.

EDIT: ok, now I feel the RAGE too! How did they dare to do such atrocity to Vatel?!

YES LULZKING.

BECAUSE THIS IS A GAME WITH SPREADSHEETS AND WE DO ECONOMY WORK ALL THE TIME.

FUN.

:D

someone will have a max ctr archeron that is also med. slime and low fiend (or even better)

Hyperbole ahoy! Do you know how UNLIKELY that would be and how EXPENSIVE it would be to try?

I have a Twisted Snarble Barble with UV medium Slimes and a Faust with UV medium Undead. Hopefully it won't be too much...

"You can reroll all you like, erasing the UV it had previously. Any item save for costumes and trinkets[can some1 clarify this? how do i roll a trinket?] can roll for a UV, including token-purchased items."

You roll a trinket by taking it off, tying it to a ball, and roll the ball.

It looks like the Needle Shot's model was updated to make it more Autogun-like.
http://i.imgur.com/C6pC9.png

The prices one would have to sell bound gear at to make up for the energy cost are (at current market prices) 192,000 crowns OVER what people would have to pay for just making the item.

Yes. That was about what people were paying for unbound 4*/5* items before the unbind shop. Clearly, there were a few people willing to pay that. Now, the market is flooded with them, but based on items that have disappeared early from the auction house, a few are still selling too.

Just because you don't think 4*/5* equipment is worth that much, it doesn't mean that it isn't. If the cost to unbind was too much cheaper, there would be lots of people complaining about how brand new players can come in and just buy 5* sets. There are already people complaining about that as is.

Oh, and as far as 2*/3* unbinding? Think heart pendants.