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Get this, get that... UV this, UV that... Unbind(pause)... Sell. (Who wants to be a merchant?)

@Merethif

I see what you did there

Ok ok let’s turn all items into $ then. At least it saves me a weekend of doing fsc runs. Let’s assume I do 10 successful vana runs and each run consumes 1 hour in which I could work.

When I’m done I sell the shield for big money, maybe 20'000 energy (equals 50$). Now that’s around 2 hours of work for me. Therefore I simply spend the 20'000 energy to a squirrel (my new word for energy horting resellers) instead of wasting 8 more hours grinding.

As for newbies running around in endgame gear: That’s a predictable scenario, because some players will simply sell their whole equipment for cheap when they quit. Guess what, not for energy…
Merchants are currently frightened the market will flood with max/endgame items, so they make pre sales for around 50% of what it would cost you normally.

So after the update you can buy a full endgame set for around 75 bucks. Because items are no longer bound to a specific player it will also lead to a further increase of maxes on the market every day. Competition will raise and price dumping continues. Vog cubs raining from the sky !

What I tried to point out yesterday was, this method makes it just too easy for people with jobs like me. Of course not everyone will spend that kinda money, but some will and 000 knows that. Everything that happens in this game is profit oriented. If thats good or bad I can’t decide, but it keeps the game alive and that’s what counts I guess.

The original reason for the binding was to prevent newbies from buying their way into the end-game, making those who had worked their way to that position less than pleased and leaving no reason to play once you did so. With this new patch, it makes that possible again. Because of this, we are back where we have started, some feel.

Edit: Although I always wondered why equipping items wasn't subject to individual Tiers you cleared [as in unable to use a 5 star weapon if you have yet to gain access to Tier 3] (1-2, 1 | 2-4, 2 | 5, 3).

You missed the point completely. We're ignoring you can't craft 5* items without their 4*, completely leveled counterparts.
But you CAN craft 5* items before you have tier 3 clearance (i.e. have a complete 4* set). With your proposal you would not be able to use them. That would be silly.

Personally I'm pretty happy with that change, I will be able to sell my useless FoV that noobs will pay big money to have.

This FoV is so useless for the hardest sword to get in the game, a combuster overpowers it by 15%.

There is only the charge which can be useful but too risky to use, and who would keep a sword only for its charge and when you are surrounded by mobs, let's take a good bomb for that...

This game lacks of real content/rewards and this upcoming patch is here to hide it. (also easier to make than a real content)

In the future there will be a NPC directly selling any 5* item with the UV you want, just a matter of time...

I'm expecting the unbind costs to be double the cost to craft.

As though that wasn't already a thing that happens already. You know how many people I've seen in all 5* gear who don't even understand the basic game mechanics, or who just slash their way straight into the center of a pack of monsters and get killed, over and over? Yeah.

Heat pinatas? I love 'em!

Not Vatel D: WHY!?!

Anyways it's not going to be crazy amounts for unbinding, its going to be the same amount of CE you crafted it for.
And when will you guys bring back the Magikat Hat? I want to wear one so badly.

The example you gave isn't irrelevant, but that's based on one assumption; that everyone played the game to be fully decked in perfect gears. From my perspective, every mmo will come to an end, they will face tougher competition from those who appeal either visually or provides engaging game-play. I'm adamant not to spend a single cent on any mmo, I don't think my enjoyment suffers because I had to hit a monster one more time or have less room for mistakes made. Also, as you said, it is up to an individual if he decides to pay exorbitant prices for rare equipment. Personally, I'm against that as well because I value rational judgement, even for something as trivial as a game. It doesn't matter if 99% of the population are better geared than me, newcomers can succumb to e-fame or fast-tracked road as much as they want, at the end of the day, we'll be facing reality instead, and that is where I strive to be very rich. In a polarized society, multi-millionaires don't cut it in this word, anymore.

These are great changes. I still kinda think they should sell mist tanks for crowns via vendors, but for the most part these changes should help the CE:Crowns market value stabilize better. The value of high UV items needed to come down anyway because relative to the actual money value of CE they seem way too high.

That said, I think I'd prefer if items purchased via boss tokens and items dropped from rare spawns were ineligible for unbinding.

Why do people seem to think there will be a flood of unbound gear hitting the market after this update? Are there really that many players with gear they want to pay (nobody knows how much) to unbind and then sell?

Why do people seem to think there will be a flood of unbound gear hitting the market after this update?

It happened before the binding patch therefore it is not unreasonable to assume it will happen after the Gremlins move in.

Wouldn't it be a great idea to make each 4* or 5* item expire if it switches players more than once? To prevent the market from being flooded with cheap max/endgame items soon. For example 800ce repair costs each month or the item breaks aparts/lowering it's UV's.

Forgot where I read it but 000 mentioned this idea once when talking about how rose regalia cannot "expire". While im generally against the basic idea of expiring items, this would balance the game again. More profit for 1st time sellers, and decreasing value of 2nd hand deals.

Every time a player quits or needs energy quickly he will resell his stuff cheaper than he bought it (unless its a squirrel/reseller, but they'd have a hard time getting rid of "breakable" items). That’s necessary because as longer as the game exists, the more max/endgame items will hit the market rapidly. Blame the gremlin merchants.

To kick squirrels downstairs? No need for it, because resellers will starve to death if my idea ever becomes reality. Furthermore it will stabilize the value of rare items and increase profit for 000.

I wonder what they will charge for rolling an UV.

Right now even 100k would be cheep for a UV on a Divine Avenger or Gran Faust.
If u consider that u need roughly ten 4* versions of each sword to get one with UV.
10 Sealed are 200 jelly =~ 67 jelly runs=~5500CE.
10 Avenger are 5500CE +10*450CE=10kCE or 630kcr.

and what do u charge for a UV FOV? Right now its impossible to get one.

PS:
last but not least: UVs are totally unnecessary to succeed in this game.
But: People keep paying insane prices for them.

Why would a player that quits take the trouble of selling his gear? It is not like he can convert it in real currency. In all likelihood a player quiting will just quit taking his items with him.

You also seem to miss the fact that every time a (used) item is resold its "value" is lowered by the unbinding cost. The unbinding cost for a 5* item will be substantial. (Probably between 1500 and 2000 CE)

I looked at the steam stats and i can see only one thing, Spiral Knights is the most played MMO today.

3829 were playing spiral knights AT THE SAME TIME on steam today.

Looking at steam stats for games that don't require steam is not going to give you an accurate representation of the user base. Neither Rift or SK require steam to run.

It is going to be sad to see brand new players running around in 5 star armor. Well at least it is going to give me a ton of CE every time I sell 5 star items to brand new players.

Here is a question, which maybe I haven't read, but will the random UV spin guarantee a UV? Or is there a possibility you won't get a UV at all? If it guarantees a UV I will definitely use this feature, if it doesn't there is no way I am.

I hope that there are also negative UV's for markets sake. ugh overpriced party city.

Spiral Knights is the most played MMO today.

Pffffthahahaha.

In case you still don't get it i was clearly stating this in relation to Steam games

But that's still wrong.