Spiral Knights - Stop auto-aim in LD

Stop auto-aim in LD

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Wed, 03/07/2012 - 15:56

#101

Exileddread

Feller, for some reason

Feller, for some reason you're still taking PvP in Spiral Knights seriously like it's your second job. You'll go MLG soon for sure. I know for a fact that you'll be getting some of the best sponsors out there, because you're (as mentioned in your post) the beast of Spiral Knights.

"Auto-target just give the noobs a small chance to beat me."

This is the only thing you've said right so far. Well done. It's working as intended because Spiral Knights is a casual game.

I'm completely neutral on the matter and wouldn't care if they removed it or kept it in. All it really does is help new players not get completely train wrecked when they first try Lockdown. You should probably find a different game if it bugs you so much, Feller. I'd also appreciate it if you didn't mention my name like you do because you clearly don't know what you're talking about. Just refer back to post #91.

@Nowaay Hey mate. ^_^

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 16:24

#102

Bacon-Strip

@Feller

I like how you're putting words in my mouth. Me falling to you DOZENS of times is pretty ridiculous, considering I'm usually not in games with you, and when we do fight, it's usually pretty even.

"Auto-target just give the noobs a small chance to beat me."

This is exactly why this feature is still in the game.

New players would get too easily frustrated without being able to hit anything, and there wouldn't be as many lockdown players.

I wouldn't whine and cry if AA was taken away, I'd still play because I can do fine without it.

Summary: Do whatever you want with AA, just don't complain about things that you lose to. If you're really so great, learn to kill the autoaimers.

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 17:02

#103

Random-Thing

Yeh....

I really hate auto-aim in PvP (and PvE... but thats kinda irrelevant), have done since lockdown came out, but then again i'm coming to hate reading Feller's comments more. Arogant peoples like you need to be shown their place so now i'm kinda rooting for it to stay and for you to get flamed a load more :P

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 17:11

#104

Spamisalreadyinuse

im surprised blueberrymuffin

im surprised blueberrymuffin hasn't come in with his 2 cents on this topic.

also, feller? trying to justify your skills here and your real life is just sad.

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 17:46

#105

Eldibs

First of all, Feller, I've

First of all, Feller, I've never even heard of you. If you were slaying the other good players with the frequency you claim, I would have heard of you before. I've never seen screenshots of your supposed victories, never seen videos of you trouncing reputable Lockdown players, never heard any of the actual good players mention you, and I've never seen your name on the Lockdown leaderboards.

Second, you keep talking about how great you are, sounds like you're trying to convince yourself, not us. Besides, if you're so good, and can win 95% of the time (because you totally keep detailed information of your Lockdown games, and derive statistics from them), why do you care if it's available or not? If that's the case, you should want it on, if only to provide extra challenge. No, you seem way too angry about auto-target to be winning that much. People who win often don't rage on the message boards about how their opponents play.

Third, learn to edit your posts. Double posting is indicative of your lack of experience with message boards in general.

And finally, you speak as though you're an immature spoiled brat. Calling everyone who disagrees with you a noob, claiming to be awesome at everything, referring to a wife/girlfriend/whatever as "your woman." Grow up, quit exaggerating your "skills," quit raging over something that has almost no actual effect on competitive Lockdown gameplay, and get over it.

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 18:16

#106

Nechrome

... And this is one of the

...

And this is one of the many reasons that I do NOT play LD...

But in all seriousness, I don't really care about AA. What I care about are heart trinkets.

Sure, autoaim can be really, really annoying if you're on the business side of the sword of a guy using AA. But what really ticks me off are heart trinkets. Nowadays, the team that has the most toothpick-wolver-line-heart-trinket using strikers has a 99% chance of default win. Unless they're all unskilled noobs with powerful stuff...

If they removed heart trinkets from LD, those kind of guys would still dominate, but everyone else would have a much better chance of winning.

Just my two cents. Time to leave before I post something stupid.

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 18:33

#107

Jaroche

Every time I read Feller's

Every time I read Feller's post, I imagine this.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 15:26

#108

Our-Little-Ajo

AA is for noob ppl

And I'm better than you

1st because I'm F2P
2nd because I don't use autolock
3rd because none of you can kill me alone, with or without autolock, with or without UVs.

ohh and 4th Because I have a great life.

kjakjakja Noobs with pepper in their ass in 3.... 2.... 1

Post your noob comment
"here"

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 18:49

#109

Zaderules

Competition

Just a thought.... I'd like to see a lockdown 1 on 1 between Feller and other good LD players like Bacon-Strip, Exileddread, Schiaz, Chris, Thengel, and many other good ones (sorry if I didnt name you). Maybe Whitelancer can host this contest or something.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 19:10

#110

Gwenyvier

"And I'm better than you 1st

"And I'm better than you

1st because I'm F2P"

Incorrect. All that means is that you refuse to support a game (that I assume) you enjoy while others are willing to. I seriously do not get the downright disdain that F2P players have against P2P players in this game. Without the P2P players none of the F2P players would have anything higher then 2* gear (token rewards aside) and oh yea... there would be no game without P2P players supporting the game.

~Gwen

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 21:25

#111

Jmsa

O.O

You are pretty humble Feller. < - - ( sarcasm )

/applaud

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 14:44

#112

Blueberrymuffin

:O *reads while eating popcorn*

Never thought I'd find someone who whines more about Auto-target than me xD (+ Feller), and yes I would like to see him VS another good player, but all those other players Zade named off are kinda UV OP...but then again Fellers pretty good and unlike Chris, Exile, Sciasz etc...he actually has skill, not that ASI max and autoaim arn't skill, but when I fight people like Feller the fights are more...well more, we both miss and EARN our hits and fights can last from 20 seconds to a whole MINUTE!. call us whiners but we know "SKILL" from "UV's/Autoaim" which some people don't like it's not REAL SKILL.
@Exiled, if you think Lockdown isn't competetive thats your fault for rolling UV's :D (duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh *heart attack*)
@ Feller no one cares about skill anymore, thats why Chris and Exileddread are so overrated.

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 15:12

#113

Damienfoxy

You all seem to forget the

You all seem to forget the REAL issue here. People pilling themselves with trinkets just for a one hit kill.

Auto-aim is the least of your worries.

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 15:15

#114

Tennis

Why did you bring this thread

Why did you bring this thread back up? :(

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 16:12

#115

Alynn

wow

this is still going? nice nice..........

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 16:17

#116

Guardianknight

Oh this thread is so much fun XD

Guardianknight lets out a deep sigh.

Why not just take off auto-aim, remove trinkets/pendents,
remove armor, and make everyone fight in proto gear:)

I've never used auto-aim in LD so I can't give any personal examples but
it doesn't seem like it helps that much; maybe on the 3rd flourish swing?
I don't really know and I don't really care. All I know is I enjoy LD and if you're
going to let something like auto-aim diminish your joy from the game, maybe
you should find something else to play.

@Feller:
I don't know exactly how serious you're being but hopefully you can see the fact
that this is just a GAME.

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 16:19

#117

Juances

You can delete it, but another will surely appear next week.

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 16:46

#118

Shidara

Ugh...

Time to kill whatever good image I have and do some skull-bashing.

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Let's start with the main course; Feller

Not only do you come across as a stuck up jerk who can't play a game without acting like his life is on the line, but you actually have the nerve to pull in a lot of unnecessarily unrelated crud that has nothing to do with the topic at hand. I'm gonna jump on post #110.

"I'm better than you"

"1st because I'm F2P"

Gwenyvier addressed this so much better than I could ever hope to. To add whatever nonsense I can, there is no pride in being FtP. "Oh hey! I worked for my stuff!" Well, so did we, just in real life instead of online.

"2nd because I don't use autolock"

Good for you. The only thing you're missing out on is a few pixels of reach that auto-aim gives you by pointing you directly at your target. In reality, so long as you have a wide-arc attack from weapons like Flourish and Sealed Sword, that increased range really shouldn't make too much of a difference as you would usually get right up in their faces anyway. Only if you're using something such as a Calibur or Brandish that attacks straight in front of you, auto-aim barely makes any difference at all.

There are also arguments that heavily support auto-aim, such as post #95 by Zaderules. Let's see you play like that and still get your oh-so-famous 30K damage count.

"3rd because none of you can kill me alone, with or without autolock, with or without UVs."

Be this true or not, how you can take so much pride in a casual game makes me almost pity you. Not because you're good, but because you feel the need to express this to the point of ragging on others. You want something to be proud of? Go and become the best in a proper competitive game, assuming you can.

"ohh and 4th Because I have a great life."

Irrelevant. Completely irrelevant. Though I must say, if you have such a great life, why do you feel the need to convince us that you do? Not only do we not care, but the way you point it out makes it seem like you're trying to convince yourself, and not us, as also stated by Eldibs.

I also want to say that I would absolutely love to see "your woman's" reaction to the way you address her in post #103. I pity her. I really do.

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Now then, now that I'm done with that, on to the dessert; Blueberrymuffin

I'm impressed how you pull out names out of nowhere and immediately accuse them for using auto-aim. Just because Feller comes out to rant about it do you try to back him up. Possibly because you may also happen to be friends. Fools seek out their own minds after all. For all you know, they could just be great at aiming, and even if they were to use auto-aim, the angle was probably accurate enough that it would hit anyway considering the arc of the flourishes and sealed swords, which are so common I will go ahead and assume that is their weapon of choice and be equally stupid as you just because I don't have anything better to do with my time and mind. If these guys didn't have skill, they wouldn't be as recognized as they are, and auto-aim plays but a minor role in the play.

Another thing I want to address, is that UVs are apparently the work of the devil, and god forbid anybody has the nerve to put an attack speed increase on that flourish. Whilst it is certainly a utility for those with wealth, it still is but another minor buff to back up the abilities of the wielder. You can give the best gear to a newbie, and they will still be a newbie. You can give the best gear to a professional, and they will make use of their tools to their full potential.

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I think this post is becoming rather large, and I'm probably not going to look much better than either of these guys for taking the bait, but it's a relief to be able to vent every now and then. Now then, off to bigger and greater things. Hopefully I don't have to come back here later.

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 17:50

#119

Our-Little-Ajo

Umm, I was thinking in respond that, but I don't even know who you are so... naaa

Auto-target = noobs

I'll keep killing noobs for fun.

: )

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 17:56

#120

Thimol

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I just love how the people that claim to be skilled on this particular page of the thread type like they have the cognitive capacity of a half-eaten roadkill iguana.

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 18:18

#121

Eldibs

(Just for the record, I am

(Just for the record, I am not claiming to be a masterful Lockdown player.)

@Feller
I'm just going to quote myself here...

"People who win often don't rage on the message boards about how their opponents play."

You are officially a failure at Lockdown until you can prove otherwise. Bring pictures or videos of your supposed victories. Until then, you're a noob.

@Blueberrymuffin
Having a fight last for a whole minute doesn't make you both skilled players. It makes you both utter failures. Learn to hit a target.

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 18:46

#122

Mk-Vl

@Shidara

much respect

Wed, 03/14/2012 - 15:18

#123

Our-Little-Ajo

Eldibs

I don't need to show you nothing, if you see the post, there's other ppl like you doubting of my gameplay, they all just support auto-target, but never said something about how I play.

If you don't know me, I really don't care, the rest DO KNOW ME, that's why they don't say nothing against me, because they know what I can do in LD... and all that without auto-target.

30k it's a low dmg when I have more than 1 bar conection, but I'm sure that ppl who NEEEDS autoaim can't do 10k without it.

I don't rage, I just hate to see how noob ppl can get same amount of dmg just spamming like girls.

I rather 5k dmg without it than 30k with auto-target.

Learn how to play instead defending noob features.

Wed, 03/14/2012 - 15:20

#124

Our-Little-Ajo

For the rest

PM me if you want to know how to win without a noob feature aiming for you.

Wed, 03/14/2012 - 15:27

#125

Ndognine-Forums

+11 to Shidara couldn't have

+11 to Shidara
couldn't have said it better myself.
I also agree with Eldibs by using the common phrase "Pics or it didn't happen"

Wed, 03/14/2012 - 17:36

#126

Pokenuevo

Shidara, Thank you for your time in writing that comment. I have too much stress from real life to worry about complainers.
Anyways, I've trolled this topic a couple of times, but I don't get why you complain "if you are a pro and win every time" anyways.

I've seen some of the guys on this thread around Lockdown, not gonna put down names. However, those who claim to be pros, just don't play the game right USUALLY (just so I don't get hate). I usually see the scoreboard, someone gets 17,000 damage, then complains they should've gotten more. They were using the generic Skolver+FF+Striker combo. I checked caps, only one.

So, my general opinion is that good players should win regardless of Auto-Aim. It's something to be utilized, if you decide to use/keep it. Damage on a scoreboard means nothing in my opinion. I don't play Lockdown extensively, but usually I can get around 7 caps in a round. However, that means my damage is about 4,000-6,000 for that reason. My teammates call me a "noob" that can't do much damage. I don't care honestly. The term "noob" is just a jerk term in my opinion, but that's a whole different topic.

Wed, 03/14/2012 - 17:02

#127

Eldibs

Feller, you're a failure at

Feller, you're a failure at Lockdown, and only one person here is vouching for you, the one person who's known to be a sore loser (Blueberrymuffin). Nobody here has claimed to know you, and the reason why they're not speaking against you probably has something to do with you making an utter fool of yourself in the forums, and their lack of interest in having to speak to you. You're like the crazy homeless person on the street corner screaming about how he is the President. Nobody believes you, and most of them are just avoiding you.

So, once more, regarding your supposed 30k scores, pics or it didn't happen. It's not like it's hard to press F12, and then put the picture on Imgur, the Steam Cloud, Photobucket, or whatever your preferred image host is. I mean, if you really had those kind of scores, you wouldn't have any problem providing pictures. You're trying to hide the fact that you're lying about how well you play, and we can all see right through it. PICS OR IT DIDN'T HAPPEN.

You know what, I'll even lead by example.

17k damage and 9 captures.

Surely if a sub-par player like myself can manage that, the almighty Feller can do better?

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 09:42

#128

Meida

Dibs, i know you love this

Dibs, i know you love this picture. :D

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 09:56

#129

Zaderules

I don't really care about UVs

I don't really care about UVs and stuff. I just like to see how people's playing styles match up. I've seen Feller's playing style. Kind of ferocious without that autoaim. I don't see him using guns though (maybe I missed him using guns, but I never see him with guns just with a FF). So far, Feller is the only person with his playing style with his FF. There are people like Namewithnumbers (and many others) that use the skill of AP/sentenza to interrupt the opponent's move and then go in for the attack. I am sure there are more playing styles out there. I'd just like to see how strategies match up against each other. As a full on keyboard player, I have no skill in gunning whatsoever (as my trackpad sucks -_-). So i tend to always go with swords which gives me a disadvantage. Personally, I believe autoaim is just there. If you want to use it, then fine. If you dont, then fine. But yeah I'd like to see a 1 on 1 on Feller with like Schiaz, Thengel, Chris, N4M3, Jcasdfqwer, Rhipdclxvi, Nexzon, Rubyeclipse.... yeah those people... (and many more but I dont think I can list them all on here).

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 10:22

#130

Jcasdfqwer

Meida check this

Meida check this out:

http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/468612506425375195/79F1B083B8CDB66F404...

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 11:17

#131

Derperer

Don't know why but...

I have a feeling Feller is a kid and so is Blueberrymuffin. Raging in LD, so funny man. Brag in RTS/FPS games not SK. Congratulations on performing well, it seems like you guys are having orgasms whenever you see yourselves getting 20k damages in randoms. RANDOMS I tell you. But then rage when others outperform you. Let's see you guys duke it out in Guild matches, get pics or record it. You win in life now. /clap.

-Bobxloblaw

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 12:05

#132

Eldibs

Meida, Jcasdfqwer, I love you

Meida, Jcasdfqwer, I love you both.

Zade, that last thing you said. That needs to happen.

Derperer, I agree with you.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 14:53

#133

Our-Little-Ajo

Yo pal

http://i42.tinypic.com/hw9uli.jpg

Call me son, I'll teach you how to do it without Auto-target, not like the other noob that even make videos spamming.

I had to take a picture for you, because I never do that crap, but if you want I can make an album for you "Son".

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 14:55

#134

Our-Little-Ajo

Yo noob

And srry but that's not my Highest dmg, I capture this because you ask me to do it. If I got more one day I'll save you a picture.

Yo !!! the noob with 29k, I dare you to do it without spamm FF or BTB, and without auto-target of course.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 15:06

#135

Jcasdfqwer

@Feller

And what a surprise, you have the least caps on your team as always. How you became this arrogant I have no idea, considering I can name several people who can destroy you.

Edit: Oh and spam FF? Do you want me to spam GF combos like you instead?

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 15:07

#136

Our-Little-Ajo

Naaaaa, nooooooob !!!!!!!

Name one that doesn't use autolock..

And no there's no noob that can do what you're saying.

And take a good look, I'm not wearing my full skolver.

Go to bed son.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 15:11

#137

Jcasdfqwer

You keep using auto target as

You keep using auto target as an excuse when you know people are better than you. Either you can beat them 1v1 or you can't. And trust me, you can't. You can't even beat me 1v1 and there are a lot of people better than me.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 15:14

#138

Eldibs

And yet, despite your high

And yet, despite your high damage, you only got one cap. Less than everyone else in the game. At least you finally backed up your claim of 30k damage though. Now do the same thing against players who are actually good, rather than in a random 4v4. Let's see you back up your claim of cutting down players like Jaroche, Exiledread, Rubyeclipse, Chris, and Thengel.

Also, don't call me "son." I'm probably older than you are. And I have no interest in learning anything from someone who can't understand that auto-aim has almost no effect on actual competitive Lockdown play. Play a bunch of GvG against the big-name guilds, and then come talk to me.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 15:19

#139

Bacon-Strip

I keep coming back to this

I keep coming back to this thread. I enjoy it everytime.

When you actually focus on capping to win the game feller, then you can brag.

http://i.imgur.com/nCrwA.jpg

This was also back when I only had ASI medium.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 15:50

#140

Our-Little-Ajo

Yo Bacon-Spamm-like-girl

Try to do that without Auto-target, I've seeing you spamming like a noob. I can't feel respect for an aimboter, you're not at my lvl so gtfo kiddo.

and Eidb,s you lost your fight long posts ago, specially if you need to name other players that without aimbot are just as noobs as you are.

After this. I'm out, you have nothing against me except auto-target.

AKjkajkajkaajk

Please post your noob comment "**********************Here*********************"

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 15:57

#141

Diamondshreddie

well...

if auto aim helps gunners and swordies ESPECIALLY... damn flourishes

then waht do bombers like me have?? ...

an enemy team full of striker skolvers max shock resist and flourish asi High....

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 16:12

#142

Sypsy

@ Diamondshreddie You have

@ Diamondshreddie

You have your dignity =)
(unlike some other person in this thread)

But really, auto aim doesn't really help gunners unless the target is standing still.
If they have shock resist, get a stagger storm?

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 16:56

#143

Eldibs

I don't have a noob comment

I don't have a noob comment to post, perhaps I can borrow one of yours? You seem to have plenty. Also, you've said "I'm out" before, and yet you still came back to defend yourself. Sounds like this is a little personal to you. What's the matter, can't handle a little scrutiny?

Furthermore, what makes you think those players I named all use auto-target? Have you literally walked into their house and watched them play? Some of them might have videos up, but I know a few of them don't. Exiledread even specifically said he only uses auto-target in GvG.

Also, claiming your victory despite everyone else claiming otherwise? I'm going to have to call Danth's Law on you. So why don't you call whine-one-one, put out a wahmber alert, and have the wahmbulance come pick you up, before you choke while eating your french cries.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 17:18

#144

Derperer

Hey man

I don't know if you are dyslexic, or English is not your first language, or something else but it's easier to read your posts if you proofread or edit them. Maybe brush up on that first before LD. Just a tip anyway.

Get your guild to do GVG, screenshot/record it. It's easy to kill players who has ping/framerate problems in random. Post it and brag more.I'm not claiming that you are wrong to say you are the best. If you do well it might satisfy your ego more. I hear egos need more feeding like bravado and narcissistic nutrients. I reiterate, you win in life because you are so pro in LD.

-Bobxloblaw

Edit: Just saw your screenie, i know you speak spanish or maybe portuguese mainly so my bad.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 17:25

#145

No-Thanks

Zelda

not sure whether, whatever u guys are talking about, is the central core of the topic or if its wholly off topic

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 17:28

#146

Mysticbeam

lol.

Use AA/not using AA is like using the scope on a sniper, or maybe the cheap laser on the sniper :P

Most people, like me, prefer to use their own skill and aim guns true to instinct, MAYBE checking the scope once or twice. Others like to aim through to scope and pew pew pew at everyone else :).

Today in LD(Which i VERY rarely play), i put on full skolver, my BTB, AA, and striker. I failed, big time.

W/o the skolver, using the btb still, and switching between AA and reg, i was able to get about 3k more dmg each time.

AA, therefore, is a FRACKIN PREFERENCE, AS SOME PEOPLE HAVE SAID!!!!

Using autoaim does not make you a noob, It just makes some of your swings point in the general direction of the enemy.

I usually go in as a recon, and people swinging their FF with AA on poses no real threat to me, i can usually finish them off :)

AA is FINE in LD! Complaining about how others use AA is like complaining that the U.S. brings fighter jets/stealth bombers, etc, to their land battles. Nobody except the loser cares, and usually the loser rants on about how the other side cheated.

In other words, Deal with it. :P

Go ahead and flame this post if you want, i doubt i will be checking back as i have said what i need to say :P

EDIT: I only read the first page, this might have been said before :P

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 17:29

#147

Blanky

C'mon guys.

Auto-Target or No Auto-Target, it doesn't matter. Just play the game the way you want to.

No need for a 3 page argument over a game. Damage is nothing but an imaginary number on the screen.
You all need to calm down, have a sip of green tea, or just avoid each other. Especially you, Feller. :>

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 18:52

#148

Zaderules

@ Feller

Giggity :P

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 19:51

#149

Griseolar

Fellar's post can be

Fellar's post can be summarised in one line:
"Your opinion differs from mine, THEREFORE YOU ARE A N00B WHO USES AUTOAIM!!!"

I wouldn't be surprised if he uses that line while arguing with someone over the difference in taste between chilli sauce and ketchup.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 20:31

#150

Shennynerd

I don't rage, I just hate to

I don't rage, I just hate to see how noob ppl can get same amount of dmg just spamming like girls.

Your "woman" must be so proud.

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