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Bomb nerf was F'ing stupid

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Thu, 03/08/2012 - 22:43
#151
Dunreave's picture
Dunreave
I Mainly wanna say.

Those of us that don't have every weapons had a decent way of killing healers. Now thats gone.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 22:44
#152
Maeko's picture
Maeko
Ran 2/3 of the Gauntlet with

Ran 2/3 of the Gauntlet with it and another bomber using SB/AoA.

Everything died, maybe they lasted 10 more second than they would have pre-nerf.

Yep, definetely useless vendor trash now!!!

Come off it, I'm a bomber, It still works magnificently.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 23:06
#153
Pepperonius's picture
Pepperonius
+1 Maeko

I did a few runs with it, and yeah, it still works very well. Lots of things die, and dropping 6 of those with two bombers will vitrually ruin anything with neutral or weakness. Just tears them apart like a kid opening their xmas present.

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 08:28
#154
Tengu's picture
Tengu
One more time for the cheap

One more time for the cheap seats, the angry folks are the ones who don't use it as a bread-and-butter bomb like I almost immediately started doing.

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 08:54
#155
Softhead's picture
Softhead
WOW.

So much rage and arguing.

I can't really say anything as I don't own the bomb.

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 10:33
#156
Tengu's picture
Tengu
@atrumvindex well, I think

@atrumvindex

well, I think you have as much insight into the bomb as some of the people in this thread, so fire something off!

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 11:11
#157
Diamondshreddie's picture
Diamondshreddie
well...

i tried the bomb post patch...

and i myself as a pure bomber says:

its .. usable :/ but like someone else said, its like comparing NITRO to BAB . ... ones an option... ther other.. needs .. tweaking .

abd swordies who say "ohh swords do te most damage cause theres the most risk involved! that may be true, but in the case of this bomb , it IS a big risk! you have to dance in small cirlcles around your enemies, placing one at each side to really make this bomb effective, AND THEN IT GETS NERFED X_X .... it was on par for damage with swords, it gave bombers some light.. maybe OOO can cater to people other than sword users :O ..... nope ._. its absolutely USELESS on gremlins. :( and it even says in the descrition thats what its used for ... seerus.. oh seerus. why did OOO have to berf your mechanical intelligence
but i suggest that this bomb stay almost just te way it is... keep the radius, number of orbs, damage... just give it a LITTLE more speed and it might actually hit something other than whopping giant lichen colonies!!! (but missing those is like missing a damn mountain .. that you are inside of)

and gunners have it worse

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 11:46
#158
Yvanblo's picture
Yvanblo
For us non rich players

Well, the bomb still works, and pretty well at that. Bear in mind, I'm using the 3 star version, since I don't have lots of money to drop on 5 star gear. I am only running 3 star gear, and I was VERY happy with the performance of the pre patch bomb. I only have one set of 3 star gear (I do have 2 guns, 2 bombs, and 2 swords that are 3 star) at the moment. It takes a considerable amount of time for me to make enough to buy new gear. I figure it will take almost 2 whole months to get to 4 star equipment. Having purchased the expansion, I was very excited to have this new bomb, and it made the game very fun for me. The game is still fun, but the bomb just isn't as exciting or destructive as it should be.

If I had the money to buy all 5 star gear, and was a bomber, and etc, etc, etc... I would have the 5 star bomb, and probably love it. It's just a little lame that buying the expansion and being rewarded with a sweet bomb, as a non bomber, is pretty cool. But having it turned into a Nerf gun (yes, I'm exaggerating a little) is kind of a let down. I still use it, but the smile on my face is all but gone... the orbs are just so slow... OOO, please speed it up a little, the slow rotation is sucking my will to live.

To sum up: For the average player without 3 or more sets of 5 star gear, this "nerf" is frustrating. Having a powerful weapon in a 3 star variant was really cool, but it's just a little too hard to use effectively now. Those silk wings just never die with this thing... and that means the enemy they are healing never dies either... until I pull my sword.

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 11:49
#159
Capt-Chopper's picture
Capt-Chopper
I think they should rebuff

I think they should rebuff the speed and leave the damage as is, slowing the orbs AND lowering the damage is a double damage nerf. Increase the charge time if you have to so its only useful to people with CTR. High risk, high reward.

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 12:14
#160
Dirge-Knight's picture
Dirge-Knight
Orb Speed

I would be happy with a medium increase in the orb speed. The damage is fine now, as long as we get some speed back.

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 12:19
#161
Fallconn's picture
Fallconn
FALCON PUNCH!

/yes Dirge-Knight
i'm not too pleased with the nerf.but hey at least we get the bomb :T

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 12:50
#162
Akvar's picture
Akvar
I'm going to have to agree

I'm going to have to agree with most on this thread, the nerf was too much. The biggest hit is the fact that it took irl money to acquire and then we were slapped in the face by having it nerfed. OOO is never going to make the entire playing base happy so the question is, which is better to upset the f2p players or the p2p players? That being said the bomb is still useful under circumstances but it would be nice to have the original speed restored then the p2p players wouldn't feel so robbed.

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 12:55
#163
Lordnamechange's picture
Lordnamechange
your mouth shut it

quit the begging for over powered items OOO nerfed it because it was dum and over powered proll cause of LD

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 13:01
#164
Softhead's picture
Softhead
LNC, WHAT!?

Clearly you have not read this thread, so you shut your mouth sir. Also, I could barely
under stand you.

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 13:43
#165
Maeko's picture
Maeko
@Lordnamechange

Please shut up. statements made from ignorance make you sound like a moron and make the rest of us feel sorry for you.

And LOL at balance in LD. Especially since DR wasn't overpowered in PvP, it was in PvE.

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 14:34
#166
Pepperonius's picture
Pepperonius
LNC

Perhaps you should return to wherever it is you came from, and leave the comments to people who can string together 2 coherent sentences. Your mouth, shut it.

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 15:21
#167
Damienfoxy's picture
Damienfoxy
Hammers and bombs

Seriously, this is a (swear word) bait and switch. I could be demanding my money back if it was't for the warmaster rocket hammer. Not to mention the hammer is SO BUGGED when you get stunned during a charge, (entire player freezes, can't do anything)

The 5* bomb was just fine as it was, it required placement, and skill. Now you can't even kill a T1 jelly without multiple bombs.

Yeah, fix this now, return it to how it was.

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 15:16
#168
Softhead's picture
Softhead
@Damienfoxy

Remove the swear.

Breaking the TOS.

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 15:22
#169
Regalya's picture
Regalya
That lvl 1 jellies(Royal

That lvl 1 jellies(Royal Mini) never died with 1 shot anyway i believe their hp 200~ for solo. they also have spesific armor diffrent then other jellies.
They take "Normal" damage from blitz normal attack(not charge) even tho it's pierce
They take "Extra" damage from shadow as a jelly but strangely enough they also take extra damage from elemental attacks even tho they're jelly
Basicly they have same armor type as Jelly King before it got nerfed.

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 15:23
#170
Damienfoxy's picture
Damienfoxy
FREEDOM OF SPEECH!

FREEDOM OF SPEECH!

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 15:24
#171
Iron-Volvametal's picture
Iron-Volvametal
...

Good luck with that Ban.

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 15:25
#172
Psychodestroyer's picture
Psychodestroyer
Dudes...

Anyone other than me thinking 'Ren' or 'Tam' at the moment?

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 15:29
#173
Damienfoxy's picture
Damienfoxy
Ban? What ban? There's no

Ban? What ban? There's no swear word there.

I have no idea what you are talking about. It just says "swear word", not an actual swear. Technically i'm not in violation for what people use in their minds as a swear word.

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 15:39
#174
Flaame's picture
Flaame
You know, I can take Three

You know, I can take Three Rings' idea for nerfing the damage on the bomb. I could understand why they did that, but I kinda wish they left the orbiting speed on those objects the same. Consider one half the speed, and another half the damage. I would be perfectly fine if they nerfed the damage.

It's kinda not up to par with most of the other bombs now and makes me want to use the Ash of Agni for on-going damage.

EDIT:
I'm pretty sure someone complained about the bomb being overpowered, thus which is why they nerfed it. Now you guys are complaining they nerfed it.

Haha, you guys are silly.

Haha
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hahaha

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Fri, 03/09/2012 - 15:41
#175
Softhead's picture
Softhead
Flaame has got a point there.

We are hyporcrites. We(some people on the fourms) say the bomb is overpowered, yet we(same people) complain like babies that it is nerfed. Some spammed it to heck, hence OOO noticing it. The nerf may had put it as you have got to keep on using it for it to be effective(Blast bomb series).

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 15:52
#176
Toastnaut's picture
Toastnaut
What amuses the heck out of me...

If it had been released in the first place how it is now, a lot of the people who are complaining about it being nerfed too much would probably be either complaining that it's too powerful or unbalancing, or they'd be overjoyed about how good it is.

Current complainers aside, if it was released this way in the first place, a LOT of other people would be jumping for joy at how good it is. Having tried it dialed way up, it doesn't occur to them that it's still a very good addition to the game.

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 16:30
#177
Maeko's picture
Maeko
I'll admit it, I felt the

I'll admit it, I felt the bomb was overpowered, I not only requested a nerf, I EXPECTED it, which is why I defend it now.

BUT I also will admit that the nerf could have been less, maybe the damage nerf alone.

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 20:23
#178
Tengu's picture
Tengu
hey, don't get me wrong.

hey, don't get me wrong. Bring it back full strength! I like an easy ride like I do through Wolver Dens with DBB, only everywhere else....

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 20:28
#179
Uuni's picture
Uuni
They could drop the damage

They could drop the damage some more and make it spin really fast, I liked the speed and the visual of the bomb, now it looks sluggish and disappointing unless spammed

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 20:36
#180
Neodasus's picture
Neodasus
+1Up the speed keep the

+1

Up the speed keep the damage

edit: ACTUALLY SCRATCH THIS

Alot of players have experienced visual lag with the previous bomb, so how about just upping the damage and keep the speed?

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 20:41
#181
Iron-Volvametal's picture
Iron-Volvametal
...

"Alot of players have experienced visual lag with the previous bomb, so how about just upping the damage and keep the speed?"

This is why I want More Damage & Same Speed. Previous Speed was way too fast & Laggy for Some of my Teammates.

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 21:25
#182
Metagenic's picture
Metagenic
Umm

Guys, I think the point here isn't just the nerfing of the Dark Retribution. It's the fact that OOO are willing to instanerf guns and bombs without even testing the patches first (Pepperbox and DR, respectively) and yet refuse to touch the swords.

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