i was checking the patches notes and found the patch when they give us mission system. but i guess whe really should be thankful because they mean they going to give us "Rewards" based on prestige, not about rank. imagine if the lion heart were just for the one with 45k prestige or the highest prestige... well anyway here is the link: http://forums.spiralknights.com/es/node/44421

"Prestige Missions
Prestige Missions are offered to you daily and can only be completed once a day. These missions reward you with ‘prestige’ which acts as a running score attached to your knight. Knights with high prestige will earn a special bonus in the future."

i didnt found something about rank rewards thought. (and i mean the kind of gift we got from the guild update based on our ranks)

You two going to troll to other thread?
Well, you will get a ban for sure.

@Nemezis

Naming and shaming is looked down upon the forums. Especially when they are false accusations. Calling Psychodestroyer and Forum-Brady "idiotic kid" and "greedy kid" is wrong. Furthermore, you have no evidence to prove that they are what you accused them of. Also, irony really does burn. Especially when you call someone "idiotic" and "greedy" and say that you tried to be polite.

Also, as Brady stated, the 5* Honor Blade and Shield were for Vanguards. Read that right? Vanguards. You saw the missions when they came out. You decided not to do them. People like Brady here did them, and he got his reward. Why should you reap the same prize as Brady, if you chose to ignore the missions? Brady had to grind through'em, and that was his reward. Psycho got the 4* stuff, so saying that he was one of those people who got the 5* stuff and are too greedy to share their stuff is wrong.

I can understand why you are angry and frusturated. Having played the game for a while, you ought to have gotten something. BUT. These were for Vanguards, and since you thought that it was not worth the time, you didn't get them. Plus, there are better weapons out there. These were free, and a token of gratitude from OOO. At least be thankful you got SOMETHING. It sucks you can't upgrade, but hey, it's still free, and you'll probably never use it, since there are better stuff out there.

Please don't call me any names. If you do, I will simply know you chose to ignore my post.

I believe it is because you came off as harsh to the minds of other, and you continued that trend, even with your first few posts.

Just by reading the Original Post, it sounded like an angry rant to me, people will be thrown off by that and act accordingly. Violence breeds violence after all.

@Nemezis

Actually, I did read Tisiphone's posts.

You tried to be polite? Wow, I can totally tell.

"You are too young and naive especially if you dont understand such simple things about time and money. This thread made by me, so it's not your business to decide what will happen to my tread."

"Who the *** are you to decide what I have done and what I deserve? Thats are things out of your competence."

"I had enough this kindergarten."

"You the one who acting here like idiot, quoting me and trying to analyse each of my word."

"Hey mr "I want to close thread of someone else" you better to show some respect before write that someone is "crying", or you will be the one who throw a tantrum here."

"Who let the child here?"

"I see you know well such words like crying and begging, seems to be from your own childish experience."

"That's good only for some greedy bas***ds."

"Hard to be "clean" in a room where people are "crapping" when they can't find arguments to support their opinion."

"No matter that some imbeciles tried to ruined my initiative because of their greediness and selfishness (/dullness)."

"You better to shut the f up, as**le"

"Psychodestroyer. No one cares about your delusional comments, so gtfo noob."

Every one of these were direct quotes from your previous thread. So, yeah, I did read carefully what was written before. And, yeah, I wouldn't want someone like you as my school teacher anyway. Also, that last quote was a personal assault against Psycho, which is against the TOS. Please read the forum rules before posting. Seems like you didn't even try to understand my own post before you posted.

Two snipes called Shadow. This'll be fun.

Nemezis, even though we're arguing the same thing, shush. You're annoying everyone.

Brady, Psycho, everyone else: We don't really have a leg to stand on apart from "pleeeeease? You can upgrade all the other things, why not these?" You're really right, you did the missions you got the stuffs. But we're offering to have upgradable versions. Assuming this is by alchemy, it is most certainly NOT FOR FREE. You did it first. You got more free. We did it later. Depending on what we did, we got a proportional amount of free, and have to pay for the rest. Money for OOO, Lionheart and Exalted for us, exclusivity for you. It's the same argument as I've made all the way. Give me a reason (preferably not personal) why this would not work.

Of course, you'll find the angle I didn't check and succeed. But that's why we have the forums.

It's a leviathan blade and aegis. You CAN GET THEM. The honor stuff are just cool-looking reskins and if you have a levi/aegis with a UV, they are inferior to those.

But in the end the only things I ever see on FSC are still Crest of Almire/ BTS/ Grey owlite and DA/Glaci/Volte/Combu and Blitz needle.

But I do agree that it's kinda sad that non-vanguards don't get the 5* versions, especially people who started playing now. Though I'd very much want the lower variants as well o3o

After careful research (which of course means that I actually read a bit in this topic), I have concluded that the answer to your query is no.

EVERYONE.

SHUT UP AND TRY TO BE CIVIL. (LOL Irony burned myself :P)

Anyway, here are my 2 Crowns...

@Nemezis

C'mon dude, calm down! Yes, I know you're angry cause you didn't get Lionheart stuff, and that everyone's arguing with you, and that there's a flame war going on, but...

Just calm down a bit. There's no need to get so riled up over a game. If you keep up like this, you could get banned. Seerusly.

And flaming doesn't really help people truly understand your point of view. All they'd see is a, I dunno, a spoiled 5 year old brat who's crying over not getting some free stuff. I'm not saying that you are, but some other people probably think you are. :/

And improving you grammar and spelling can help too. Unless English isn't your first language, then it's understandable.

@all those other guys arguing with Nemezis

I can see you guys already tried to act civil and you're civilness was completely ignored, so...

Dunno. Just ignore this thread, let it get locked or Graveyarded or whatever if Nemezis continues to flame everyone. If he calms down, then maybe you can all have a nice conversation with minimal name-calling and flaming. :D

Hello everyone, I've been reading a bit of this topic and some of the others about this issue and finally decided to put in my two cents. . .

I've been playing since the game was released on Steam and I've been enjoying it for quite some time, but upon the day of the release of the Guild Hall's I can't help but feel disappointment at this whole Honor gear issue.

While I was playing I noticed a trend about how most players seemed to like to rush into as high level of gear as possible, and then many would quickly grow bored as they could beat everything in their path, many people I know just grind Vanaduke all the time now.

I decided early that I didn't want to do that, I wanted to take it slower and try to experience more. I'm also a hoarder at heart, and I try to focus it into virtual items instead of real things, so I also wanted to collect all the items in the game. It is because of both of those I haven't gone through all of the missions yet, as I had decided to not continue through the campaign.
Is this entirely my own fault, of course it is.

My main reason for being disappointed with my honor gear (which I do feel guilt for being sad about even though it was free) is because I know that after a certain point in my progress as a player it will not only become useless to me, but will also forever taunt me. Yes, it will taunt me "Nya nya nya" as it sits in my inventory and I know I will never be allowed to earn the other six, or upgrade them in any way.

Sets like Ground-Breaker don't bother me because I have no problem tolerating sets being excluded from my collection, this is why it also doesn't bother me that I have none of the Rose sets, as I purposefully decided to exclude them from my collection. But now I have an Honor Sword and Shield that I am stuck with, free yes, but I cannot trade or donate to someone who might want them or even delete them.

As a player and a collector, I am partially grateful that I was given this item for free, but I only want the opportunity to earn the other six, or at least upgrade the two I have. Through hard work, crowns, materials, CE or a combination of all, I just want to EARN them, and that is it.

Even if I have to delve into the deepest pit in the Shadow Lairs to craft them on a hidden machine, I will be happy, because I know that someday I will get there, even if it is years from now. Personally I would like to collect all six, but I would also be happy with just being able to upgrade the two I have, but they should also be allowed to be sold and deleted as well, as I know some people want that as well. . .

@Uplus-Echd:
Think yours is the first I've seen requesting them to be tradable.

Personally, I still oppose trading. Not because it diminishes rarity, but because it'd be possible to see Apprentices and people who have chosen to ignore the missions willingly, walking around with a reward that was granted for completing the missions. This, I feel, defeats the point as well.

But that's just my opinion~

Just a side note:

Tokinjen is-WAS Dancinjen. Now, evidently she has been transformed by rage into her alter ego, Tokinjen. (note the hateful eyes and the warlike aura that surrounds her avatar)

Nem, quit while you're behind.

Again.

Tokinjen was the person who corrected your grammar in the other thread. Tokinjen=Dancinjen.

You wanna get this started again, you're giving everyone more than they need to shove back in your face.

How dare you

That made me laugh~

Binding fees aside, the principle remains. "People wouldn't do it much" shouldn't be a reason to implement something flawed in principle or fairness. Especially when you get exceptionally rich players who can easily afford the binding fees. Would we really want a wealthy player who's openly admitted they don't care about missions and never intend to do them etc, to just buy a 5* blade and run around flaunting it or being happy that they have something they shouldn't have/didn't deserve?

-I suppose you could also add a stipulation that you would need to have at least the appropriate rank X in order to be able to acquire the respective equipment
A step in the right direction, but I'm still opposed, in principle.

I realise I'm being very rigid on the matter, but personally I feel that all the decisions made were the right ones and for the right reasons. I see no reason why changes should be made nor any changes that wouldn't just be to benefit someone who didn't merit the rewards anyways.

Note also (in case someone hasn't seen other threads) that I understand there are exceptions. I'm aware that some people had willingly left the last "talk to NPC" mission (for next day celebrations, to have fun w/ it without being post-midnight etc) and could have done it. These rare situations, I wouldn't complain if the people got their rewards replaced or upgraded.

And because I'm a... snarkey... person. I'm going to correct your grammar again. I find it fun and lethargic.

Your post:

"How dare you talking with me like that? How dare you to telling me that I am "hateful and mean" when you unrespectfully saying: "shut your pie hole", "Just shut up already".
You don't understand nothing from my posts and made your wrong conclusions. How dare you to threaten me? Who the h are you? So you warned me? Don't make me laugh!

Look at you. You think that other players supports you with your "agression initiative"?
You just a coward who are hiding in big crowd of people, that is who you are.

Your post full of agression and you blame me that I am rude. That is at least supid.
Because of people like you I should defend myself, because I respect myself, and you are not."

My post:

"How dare you talk to me like that? How dare you tell me that I am "hateful and mean" when you are disrespectful by saying : "shut your pie hole" and "Just shut up already".

You don't understand anything from my posts and have made your own conclusions. How dare you threaten me? Who the ... are you? So you warned me? Don't make me laugh!

Look at you. You think that other players support you with your aggressive attitude?
You are just a coward who is hiding behind a big crowd of people, that is who you are.

Your post is full of aggression and you say that I am rude, that is stupid.
Because of people like you I should defend myself because I respect myself, unlike you."

See, doesn't that sound so much better? You need to work on singular and plural words. Forgot your articles again. Also, study on prefix and suffixes. You wouldn't say "unrespectful" or "unrespectfully" it is "disrespectful" and "disrespectfully".

After I have read half of your first post I thought: 8:54
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujEAaSgOQC4
It's better not to tell you what I thought after I read the rest.

Now when I see people complaining on here that they didn't get free stuff... that it's so hard to get to where they are going in the game... and complaining about people who put money in the game and call them pay to win. It makes me sick. Bunch of whiners. I work HARD for what i've earned. What I do with my money and my time is none of your dang business. With that being said... this is why, exactly why, I don't want the weapons upgradeable.
Why don't you want it upgradable? You already have a 5* one, you shouldn't care about other people wanting to invest time and money into their own items. What they do with their money and their time is none of YOUR business. It's their item. Them upgrading it wouldn't affect you in any way other than no longer having a shinier blade than them, and instead having the same useful weapon that, according to Brady, no one is ever going to use. BUT LET THEM HAVE IT.

The principle of the thing is that; What if you, Nemezis, had a hard working job(maybe you really have a job) and you've put some money into the game and quite a bit more time, and they decided to reward you for being a paying customer. How would you feel if they started giving that reward out to everyone in the auction house? Something that is supposed to be a sort of special gift saying thank you. I wouldn't feel good about it.
Except based on your previous statement, not all Vanguards are paying customers. If you want to put it this way:
How should we feel then? We, who bought the CE to get the Rose Sets? Only to have OOO start plopping it into the AH like it's candy. It's basically what you're suggesting. Sure, it was PROMOTED to buy the CE for the set, but it could also be interpreted as "Thanks for buying CE, have this limited edition Tabard and Chapeau! OHWAIT, NO, WE'RE GOING TO PUT MORE HERE. You ever think on how we already feel on this matter? You're being so hypocritical in your arguments!

It's the same thing with these mission ranks. People have put quite a bit of time into doing those missions and this is just a reward to people, based on your rank, saying that you've done those missions and thank you for playing the game. I'm sorry that it is unfortunate that at this time you do not have the missions done. That is NOT three rings responsibility to make sure you have everything done and then reward you for doing stuff you didn't do.

It is however their responsibility to keep the game fresh, exciting, and making you WANT to play instead of having to do missions of ares you've already done, with no time to build up capsules and health pods to instead try and make you buy them, PREVENT you from meeing Basil to try and buy recipes thus inflating the costs in the auction house and hence trying to create more of a crownsink or an imbalanced game economy, as well as prevent access to many of the fun rooms normally found in the clockworks, promoting a grind.
Yes, I know some people may find missions fun, I know many who don't have completely have quit, with little to no interest in coming back to the game because of the amount of issues. Practically my ENTIRE old guild left since they simply found no more fun in Spiral Knights. THIS IS NOT WHAT OOO wants, they want to keep players to keep paying!
However, this is going completely off topic and more of an argument of OOO being flawed in design, so I'll just end it with this argument:

In the fact that OOO rewards people special items for doing missions, they should also be rewarding those who choose to play the game in the other ways it was meant to be played, delving through the arcade, building the strata of new levels, with the random navigation elevators.

Oh, and please, half the posts in this thread are now under "He's/She's/It's a Noob/Kid/Jerk/Deaf" TAKE IT TO RANTS OR SOMETHING.

"Why don't you want it upgradable? You already have a 5* one, you shouldn't care about other people wanting to invest time and money into their own items. What they do with their money and their time is none of YOUR business. It's their item. Them upgrading it wouldn't affect you in any way other than no longer having a shinier blade than them, and instead having the same useful weapon that, according to Brady, no one is ever going to use. BUT LET THEM HAVE IT"

Just because I have a five star sword that I'll never use doesn't mean I don't care.

See, this is where you're wrong. My money analogy is not a specialized item. It isn't something rare. Money is easily obtained in this game, if you know how to obtain it. Your analogy of trying to throw that back in my face is... reaching. Reaching for something that isn't there. It sounds all good and dandy but it's just not how that works.

Someone explained it really well in another thread, and I can't find it. Someone else might be able to find it for me. But he put it so well.

(edit nevermind I found it)

Diabound said this;

"This is an example of rewarding players who have been playing a long time. All you new players have super great new things. For one, you guys can get things like spiral crescent helms and other helms armos. When I started there were only 3 and they were all ugly as hell so how is that fair? Not to mention new players get new colors to choose from and such while we have to shell out krowns for it. Also, you guys now get the fun of having free weapons and recipes to get to tier 3 faster while older players didn't.

This is an example of older players getting a reward for playing longer. If you're going to complain about this you may as well cry about not getting the groundbreaker helm and armor. The even is called homecoming... sounds suitable that only those who have played for a long time (and maybe like me, haven't played in a while) truly get benefits because you can't be coming home if you've only started."

Which explains my complete reasoning in why not making it available to upgrade. The only reason this is a huge deal is because it's a weapon. You can get the leviathon. And... AT THAT... If you do your missions you get a free sword, gun, bomb, anyways. Doesn't it go up to like a tempered calibur? I can't remember for sure.

See, you guys have it easy. When I first started playing I didn't get all this free stuff, I didn't have missions to guide me through. The monsters were much harder. Jelly king was actually really hard, probably harder than vanaduke. All those recipes that you get for free through the missions, yeah I bought all those. Every last one of them. They were all available through kozma. How was I to know that over a year from now they would introduce a missions system that would give away all those recipes.

So, excuse me for wanting to preserve the few things we can as a veteran player in this game.

I brought up the paying thing that was directed at all those people who use the excuse "I'm not pay for play and only have 100 mist a day so I couldn't get the missions done in time" as an excuse. Because there are Vanguards that were awarded accordingly that have not put a dime into this game. So that excuse is not valid. It all comes back in knowing how to manage your money. But don't punish others because you don't know how to manage money. (you is figurative not actually referring to YOU)

"Except based on your previous statement, not all Vanguards are paying customers. If you want to put it this way:
How should we feel then? We, who bought the CE to get the Rose Sets? Only to have OOO start plopping it into the AH like it's candy. It's basically what you're suggesting. Sure, it was PROMOTED to buy the CE for the set, but it could also be interpreted as "Thanks for buying CE, have this limited edition Tabard and Chapeau! OHWAIT, NO, WE'RE GOING TO PUT MORE HERE. You ever think on how we already feel on this matter? You're being so hypocritical in your arguments!"

I think you mistook my paragraph. Because what you're saying is not at all what I was getting at or meant. I could have been confusing in my wording and for that I apologize. But I do agree with you and I have made it known that they should NOT bring the first generation rose sets back. I've never said otherwise. Your analogy wasn't meeting up with my analogy. But while we're at this... I kinda strike this an opportunity to maybe make a point...

When rose regelia sets came out they said they would be limited edition last chance to get them sort of thing. When that was over and they made them available at the AH in the featured auction people got really mad because well... three rings said one thing and did something else.

Same thing goes with these missions... three rings said from the beginning they would be giving us prizes/rewards based on our rank. They've said it since missions were introduced. For them to suddenly make things available otherwise would be going back on their word. If your going to say that about one thing... you need to say that about all things. Missions and a free gear (lame gear at that) is not an exception to this.

Looks like I'm not the one being hypocritical... you are. hmm... the you in that wasn't figurative btw.

I really don't feel bad for the people that complain about doing missions they've already done because I tested them on the test server, went back to the game at released and did them there. Then the last time they did an update on the server everything on our characters got deleted and we had to do the missions over again. I have done those missions... all of them... at least THREE times. I know there are people who have done them more than that.

You see, when I was younger I would be so bored at the house. I lived in the middle of no where. The closest town was like 30 minutes away... and I would whine to my parents how bored I was. My parent's always told me that only boring people are bored. There is fun in this game if you make it. The developers can only take it so far, but you as the gamer have to take it that extra bit. YOU have to find the fun in the game. Stop looking for people to tell you "Look this is fun you should try it" Find the fun. Maybe if it's no longer fun to you, then go somewhere else where you do enjoy it and have fun.

See, as for making you buy the capsules... they aren't. I can do a vana mission without ever buying any of the extra stuff they offer in the beginning at basil. That is you needing more experience in the game not them. That isn't them. I don't know of any of my friends that buys that stuff at basil before missions. You can still do the clockworks too. You get more stuff out of that anyways.

Lastly, I do agree they need to start awarding people for different aspects of the game. I like the achievements they have. I wish they had more and I wish they were public. I want to be able to have some sort of character pages that label all your achievements and your guild different things. Maybe some sort of trophy that can go on your character page. I would love that way more than any free gear or accessory.

Uplus... they did in fact put the red, white, and black up in the auction house before they introduced the coral and violet.

Edit:

You won't like what I have to say about your post, at least I'm hoping this is the post you're talking about, which is no.

I don't agree with trading. It defeats the purpose of these items. I know that sounds really really harsh, and I actually am sorry that does. There is just no other way for me to really say that. These are items for people who obtained that rank. It would just be messed up to see people with knight-elite running around with stuff from a vanguard rank. The point of it is for you to get involved in the game and have stuff to strive for... it feels kind of like cheating when you do that.

You want the reward of a vanguard next time, then do the missions and become vanguard.

That's what they did? I missed seeing it.

EDIT: Reading from what the Monocat said, I realised how much the value of the arcade has been decreased. With missions, it is possible to go right to a boss and farm him for blood and gold. The arcade is just there, an eternal randomiser for the possibly grind bored.

There has to be more value to the Arcade.

#1,
I think the honor stuff should be upgradable. No real reason for it not to be. More crowns/ce sink, which is what OOO is ultimately after.

#2,
I think OOO should strive more transparency in their actions, and projected future actions. We need more lead time on knowing whats going to happen. They clearly state in every support ticket (99% of the denied) that they can't do this or that, because they can't do it for every knight. Implying that they have a guideline of treating everyone equally.

Yet, these 2-3 hours before hand patch notes simply reward those who are lucky enough (or lazy enough) to be home to get them when they come out:
------Take the RSS debacle where they ruined that bomb, those who were home to get the message had time to craft up tons of bombs for super cheap UV tickets. Some players got 100s of UV tickets for ha'pennies on the crown.
------Take the honor blades for example. All i had left were 2 talking missions, didn't even have to play, just 45 seconds of pressing X key. LITERALLY. But i was at work when the notes came out, and had received the useless 4* gear by the time i got home. There were undoubtedly 100s in my situation who were home, and thus afforded the luxury of being able to knock out the last few missions, and get the 5* stuff.

Give us more lead time, or give us no heads up at all. In this way you are treating us all equal. Either everyone can take advantage of the free UV tickets, or no one can. Either everyone has heads up and time to grind out the missions, or no one does. OOO shouldn't have a system that directly or indirectly rewards the unemployed or people who's schedule happens to sync up with announcements. (note: i was able to take advantage of the UV ticket hoax. But would rather have my old ctr vh RSS back...different matter entirely.)

So yeah, the items were free, but that doesn't mean that the distribution of them was fair. It would make the most sense, and the easiest solution would be to make them upgradable like other weapons. In this way, we were all rewarded for our rank investments, getting the items completely free, or getting them partially free. Meanwhile, no one who wants them can complain about them being unattainable.

But in light of OOO not going with the common sense solution--as they almost always ignore--just keep on moving. OOO understands the implications of their actions, and they don't care what we think of them. They know that the rank-based rewards on 2 hours notice will offend many...they don't care. They knew that the RSS change would piss people off....they didn't care. They knew the UV ticket compensation would be taken advantage of by some....they didn't care. They knew the CE market crown glitch that happened a few months back would alienate a lot of the player base...they didn't care. They knew purchasable only DLC content (with warhammer + bomb) would alienate F2P players....they didn't care. The list goes on and on.

The point is, OOO is aware of what they are doing, and they'll do what they want regardless. Crying, whining, and offending your fellow knights won't change that. There is no reason for any knight to come in here and vetch and moan and make a donkey of themselves. Like one in here is done.

There is also no reason for other knights to come in here and declare that if you were not vanguard you don't deserve to ever have them (since it doesn't affect you at all. If you have the 5* versions, it doesn't affect you if someone else has it. If you don't have it and don't care to have it, then why should you possibly care if someone else has it?)

Let those who want it intelligently make that request to OOO and OOO will do whatever they want to, just like they always do. Let the lowest common denominators come on here spew venom and bile and prove themselves idiots, OOO will ignore them, and so should you. Why intentionally get in a pissing contest with a skunk?

 i can see one side of it and understand that argument.  I can see the other side of it and understand that argument.  They both have their merits.  Neither opinion is right or wrong.  

Some people feel it shouldn't be obtainable.  Some feel it shouldn be obtainable.  Some people dont' care but think they shouldn't be upgradable.  Some people (like me) don't care but think they should be upgradable.

Its all a matter of opinion, and there are good arguments for and against both.

p.s.
I'm sorry to all the skunks in this world. That was very thoughtless of me.

I just typed up a magnificent post... and by that I mean I swear you take uv's post and multiply it by three. LOL.

It all comes down to this.

If we change this now, what are they going to do in the future? If we allow them to make these upgradeable...then what else are they going to devalue? Some of us might have a bit of sentimental value. No I won't use it. But it doesn't mean I don't have sentimental value of them. I really do. To all my event stuff. I've gotten an event/promotional item from every single event since I've been playing. I like to keep them as special as I can. Call me vain, but I like to show newer players the history that I have in my arsenal all the way back from release. I want to preserve all that history. I even have a white and green rose set from the initial promotions.

When I say this is the principle of the matter... I mean it. It isn't about semantics. All I'm seeing here, from most, is that they want to be able to save or get money out of it. And it's sad. I'm more sentimental than most.

Anyways, I'm done with this conversation we're just going around in circles. I only commented because someone was being a complete jerkface to everyone that was against their opinion.

I will agree they maybe should have given more of a notice and made it into a bigger event. I mean the guild halls are a big deal, it should have been way more advertised than it was and that's where they failed.

Still will not change my opinion on it being not trade-able. It takes away the sentimental value of that day and time, but so does announcing it a week ahead of time so people can rush to get it.

I wish they put in the description the dates on stuff. That would solve a lot of issues, which would mean it absolutely couldn't be trade-able. It would make things like holiday events more special. I think i remember someone suggesting this on the suggestion forums. I should find that and bump it.... lol.

They should give out more like... trophies or something for characters to display. If i had something that I could put like on a character page to view how long I've been here.

Really I want people to have something they can strive for with their character. To give value to their character.

Edit:

Everyone has their poison... i mean passion... this is mine. :p