Guild Improvements

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Severage

Am I crazy, or am I just obsessed with guilds? As a side-note, I do realize that there have been threads like this before, but I wanted to make my own thread for a couple reasons...firstly because I know it'll stay alive if I want it to, and secondly because the others have been dead for a while.

(For Guild HALL-related improvements as opposed to guild functionality improvements, see my Guild Hall Upgrades thread.) [OLD]

EDIT: Guild Hall Expansion was released! Woopy-kye-ay! Should you have things you wanted to see in the update but didn't show up, please discuss them here now in my new V2 thread.

Anyway, down to business...

As it stands, Guild administration is quite limited. You can either have pointless titles up to Veteran for your Guild Members, or they have the full ability to kick everyone from the Guild except other Officers and GMs. Wow, that makes a lot of sense!

So, I'm going to start up a list of Guild Administration options that should be in place...I'm sure there are many good ideas out there, so feel free to add to them. I'm also probably going to pull up some dead threads' ideas since this idea isn't new to the forums.

1 - Add/Rename Ranks: This gives the Guild Master(s) the ability to increase the number and change the names of the ranks. At present, there are Recruit, Member, Veteran, Officer, GM.
I think a few guilds, especially the larger ones would like to have more than just 3 name-sake ranks before any administration powers are given to them. Or, perhaps more ranks with more limited administration than Officers? Which brings us to our next point.

To avoid ambiguity (If someone renamed the "Guild Master" rank, how would you know who it was?), you could add some sort of "Badge" on the icon by the name. For instance, Guild Masters would have a Crown surrounding their location icon (The little image that shows where you're at), "Officers" would have something like Golden Wings on each side, while "Veterans" would have Silver Wings on each side. Members could have Bronze Wings on each side, and then Recruits would be left with nothing to decorate them.

There would be a few extra decals for extra ranks since you could add them. I'd imagine there'd be a limit of ranks that you could add, probably 5 Ranks (Not including Officers/GMs), so the UI would just ask you when making the rank which decal you'd want to use. There could be like a Bronze, Silver, Golden, and Crystalline/Jeweled Star, then some Crystalline Wings/Jeweled Wings. I think that many decals should be enough. Just for experiment's sake.

2 - Administration Adjustments: This gives the Guild Master(s) the ability to adjust the powers related to each rank. If you wanted Veterans to be able to recruit new members, but not be able to kick anyone, you'd be able to set that rank for the specified criteria; should you wish for Officers to not be able to kick any members at all, you'd be able to set Officers to that criteria, etc. etc.

NOTE: The original Guild Master would have priority over the other Guild Masters in the group, which is an odd way of saying that he'd be the only one that could adjust all these settings. Guild Masters that have been promoted to that position wouldn't be able to unless the original Guild Master was not in the Guild.

3 - Guild Member Threshold Increased: I think it's unnecessary (Or shouldn't be necessary) for Guilds to have multiple branches just because you can only fit X amount of Members in a Guild. It should be increased so that it isn't required (Or purchasable at least). I know this isn't a new request for sure. [ADDED IN-GAME]

4 - Guild 1 Vs Guild 1 PvP: I realize that it would be easy to set-up matches to make one team perpetually win, but Guild vs Same Guild matches should be available. KCs could be adjusted to not drop, though I wouldn't really see a problem with bribing Krogmo since you still pay for those Coins..but that could be a cheap way to farm for them nonetheless.
I'd imagine that you pay 200 CR to enter, winning team each get 280 CR, but no other rewards at all. You're losing more crowns than you are making so there's no exploitation there that I can see.

I think this could solve a few issues, especially pertaining to "practicing Lockdown". That's essentially what you'd be doing in a situation like this.

EDIT: Found a few ideas from an old dead thread. Hip hip hooray~

5 - Rank Drop-Down List(Stolen from Kinggobi's thread): When promoting someone, a drop-down list showing all the ranks available would appear. This way you wouldn't have to promote someone from Recruit, to Member, to Veteran if they are a returning member, for instance. Just a tad bit of convenience.

6 - Guild Member Force Sensitivity(Stolen from the same thread): On the mini-map, Guild Members would appear distinctly, either with a small "G" on the mini-map, or their player color (Like in a dungeon).

7 - For the Newbies(And again): A message that would pop up upon joining a guild which states: "You have joined [Guild Name], to speak in the Guild chat, type /g before your sentence."

8 - Guild Titles: Covered in this thread.

9 - Logging Notification (Suggested by Mikaxsus): Basically whenever someone logs off it says "Guild Master/Officer/Veteran/Member/Recruit (Name Here) Has logged on/off".

9.5 - (Suggested by Kentard): The ability to adjust the logging notification to only appear on the Chat when someone of X rank or higher logs out. EX: If you set it to Guild Master, you'd only get a logging notification when the Guild Master(s) log out.

10 - Guild-Exclusive "Mini-games": Some mini-games strictly for guilds that require a lot of team cooperation, and would be less suitable for random players than for guilds. An example of one such game could be Zxeroadvent's Game, in which player cooperation is vital. Any ideas concerning his thread or more mini-games are welcome. =)

11 - Guild Visible Ranks (Suggested by Ndogten): A rank that would be beside your guild's name above your head (Similar to how your Prestige Rank appears by your name), which would be dictated by your rank in your guild.

Example:

Guild Master
Mwahahaha

I'm positive there are many other good ideas out there, so feedback is most welcome. Let's keep this one alive.

LAST UPDATED: Friday, November 16th, 11:06 PM (U.S. Central)

~Sev

Serell's picture
Serell
Plus 1 to all. I think it

Plus 1 to all. I think it would be real cool to rename the ranks :3

1. Waffle (recruit)
2.Tasty Waffle (member)
3.Wafflekinz (whatever comes after member)
4. Valiant Waffle (officer)
5. Waffle w/ Purple Icing & Cherris on Top (guild master)

Severage's picture
Severage
@Serell:

lol. That's a lot of waffles...

Come to think of it though, I may make the Guild Master's rank un-editable...it could become ambiguous to new members who is really in charge if you renamed it.

PS: Veteran comes after Member.

~Sev

Serell's picture
Serell
D:

No, but i really want to make a guild and give myself the title " Waffle w/ Purple Icing & Cherries on Top " D:
Maybe underneath it could say if the person is a guild master???

Severage's picture
Severage
@Serell:

Hmmmm....

There's not a lot of room between the Guild Member's title and the next Guild Member, lol.

You might be able to fit it there...not sure. Also, "Waffle with Purple Icing & Cherries on Top" would surpass the character limit anyways; there's no way that'd fit right under your name. lol

I have an idea, let me edit OP real quick.

~Sev

Serell's picture
Serell
Wafflez

Hmmm... "Waffle w/ Purple Icing & Cherries on Top won't fit? PROTEST! I WANT MORE CHARACTERS!!!
Lol maybe it could just be, "Purple Cherry Waffle" ( the three best things in the universe ).
On topic, i like the new stuff you added. +1

Canine-Vladmir's picture
Canine-Vladmir
@Serell

u like waffles

@Forum post. thumbs up to all but i like especially guild vs self. but me want Blast network included.

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Severage
@Canine-Vladmir:

That's why I didn't specify LD or BN. I just said "PvP". It would work for both; in fact, I'd think Guild Vs Self Blast Network would be even more fun than Guild Vs Self Lockdown...

Granted you've got a decent ping.

~Sev

Schattentag's picture
Schattentag
+1

I have nothing more to say at the moment except maybe thanks for making a compiled, not-dead thread for this.

Severage's picture
Severage
@Schattentag:

lol Thanks and you're welcome.

8D

~Sev

Psychodestroyer's picture
Psychodestroyer
...Cool

It isn't just you. You are obsessed with guilds.

:D

Denial is the first stage...

Severage's picture
Severage
@Psychodestroyer:

Denial?...DENIAL?! YOU CALL THIS DENIAL?

I SWEAR I'M NOT OBSESSED WITH GUILDS!

~Sev

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Psychodestroyer
Hm?

Should I bother counting the Guild related threads you have shown great interest in?

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Severage
Heyyy

Ponies don't have six legs...

You can't convince me...

Looks more like a birthday cake's candles anyway.

~Sev

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Psychodestroyer
orly?

It's amazing what a little surgery can do...

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Ztype's picture
Ztype
Also, guild halls should be

Also, guild halls should be universal ie. players from all servers should be shown. I also have 2 guilds at the moment (one EU and one US), and I would like it if I could merge them together and have double the space.

Severage's picture
Severage
@Ztype:

I thought Guild Halls were their own server, and each guild only had 1 Guild Hall so that Guild Members from all servers who are in there would be together? o_o

@Psycho:

How do you add 2 arms...with a chainsaw? xD

~Sev

Psychodestroyer's picture
Psychodestroyer
SImple....

HACK IT OFF SOMEONE ELSE.

Add a little glue...and we're all set. ^^

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Severage
@Psychodestroyer:

Inb4 spongebob meme:

Take pony legs off here,

And put them on here.

~Sev

Ztype's picture
Ztype
Also why not have an auto

Also why not have an auto remove system for players who have not been on for x weeks unless they have warned the guild in advance?

Spyash's picture
Spyash
guild mail

there should be a guild mail system where you can just click a guild button on the who's it being sent to. this should be a officer and GM thing only so you don't have random recruits spamming you with these by mistake. this makes it so you can sed out guild notices easily.

titles

GMs should have the option to give a person in their guild a title, it's completely the persons choice they can accept it if they want or refuse it. they should also have the option of making it public so people can see (when people inspect them).

guild logos

self explanatory there is a selection of colours and patterns that can be chosen as a logo, or the maker of the guild can just make a guild logo (although this can be abusable by making them rude or inappropriate)

guild halls

they need more stuff so guild logos can be hung on banners or if guild logos arn't implemented there should be a merchant who you can buy guild accessories off of e.g. snipes to fly around the guild hall. also the guild hall could be changed e.g. castle

guild tabards

*requires guild logo*

has the guild logo on it and a custom colour.same for chapeau

Metrulizer's picture
Metrulizer
"add some sort of "Badge" on

"add some sort of "Badge" on the icon"
brb on paint.
Something like that?

Severage's picture
Severage
@Ztype:

That's not a bad idea, but some people give reasons like Vacations, so they'd have to remove the auto-kick system for just 1 player? That'd be a little weird.

@Spyash:

Psychodestroyer has a Guild Title thread, I suppose I can link to it on my OP. I think everything else you suggested is under my Guild Hall thread.

@Metrulizer:

Basically, but maybe something a bit larger or more fancy so it's more obvious. But yeah, that'd work just as well.

~bumpy~

~Sev

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Hexzyle
http://forums.spiralknights.c
Severage's picture
Severage
@Hexzyle:

I think I might've given up on replying to people who have very similar ideas and just re-post things...

So I just bumped this thread in hopes that they would see it.

lol

~Sev

Hexzyle's picture
Hexzyle
@Severage

I mean take anything from that thread that you haven't got already. I mean scour it. Every idea is useful.

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Severage
@Hexzyle:

Ahh okay. XD

*ravages threads*

~Sev

Schattentag's picture
Schattentag
@Severage

You and your sneaky edit-bumping...

Severage's picture
Severage
@Schattentag:

SHHH stop giving away my secrets~

I actually did edit the OP...just a few minutes after the bump.

~Sev

Animalminion's picture
Animalminion
strangers

This may of already been said (I cant be bothered to read the whole topic) but I think there should be some strangers in the guildhall selling things to liven the place up a bit. If this is already available please mail me how. Also I agree with the post I DID read about a badge or logo. Also maybe a theme like the lockdown themes would be nice too :)

Severage's picture
Severage
@Animalfan:

Thanks for the feedback.

Almost everything you have suggested belongs in a Guild Hall thread, as this is about overall improvements, not Halls.

To see my Guild Hall thread, go here.

~Sev

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Animalminion
ooops

oh sorry didnt see that thread

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Severage
@Animalfan:

No problemo skipper.

~Sev

Psychodestroyer's picture
Psychodestroyer
Oo

2 posts within 2 seconds of each other, wow you're fast.

Severage's picture
Severage
lol.

It's like this:

*Put in post*, *Open Tab*, *Put in another post*, *Preview both posts*, *Save at the same time*.

~Sev

Shion-Sinx's picture
Shion-Sinx
+1

i HATE PvP, but GvG its very fun to play. i mean VERY fun.

Diamondshreddie's picture
Diamondshreddie
Lol sev...

Severage : Guilds
Diamondshreddie: Bombhead masks
Ironskullkid : Memes
Tsubasa-no-me : SUDAAAAAAAAA

we all have our obsessions Sev, dont worry~

But i agree with these ideas! it would be nice to have some easier recognition as far as guild rank goes. Many other fun ideas here too!! i would rly like to see guilds being more beneficial in the future

Severage's picture
Severage
@Diamondshreddie:

lol.

What can I say? Guilds are so underdeveloped. :S

More like TSUDAAA-No-Me.

Thanks for the commentz.

~Sev

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Kentard
And me.

@Diamondshreddie & Sev: But but but... my equips :C

Anyway, moving along to your suggestion - now that I'm considerably less occupied it deserves a good response. :3

1 + 2: Why not. :3 +1.
3: Possible, but make them pay for an expansion. Also couples as a crownsink.
4: Been waiting for that a long long time. Especially for guilds that are allegedly good at LD; there should be a way to train members.
5: Meh. Don't really need that. :S
6: Haha, I don't see why not - then again Haven isn't particularly big so we can just run around and find them. Or maybe have arrows for those members that are off the map.
7: Really? I figured everyone would know how to use the /help function by now.
8: Where have I seen this before... But I still like it. :3
9: Not too sure I want to see every member logging in and out - maybe couple this with suggestion 2 and determine the rank required to show a notification everytime you log in or out.
10: First we worry about minigames being thrown in. Then guild minigames.

Severage's picture
Severage
@Kentard:

Thanks for the feedback! =]

If they can't figure out how to use /g, I don't know what would possess them to learn how to use /help. lol

When I invite a newbie to my guild, they typically don't use the guild chat until I tell them how; it's rather funny, they start whispering after the Guild Invite..

As for 9, that's not a bad idea. I suppose with a full Guild you wouldn't want your chat clogged up with logging notifications. I'll edit the OP.

~Sev

Schattentag's picture
Schattentag
Bump.

Buuump.

Severage's picture
Severage
Up.

Up up and away~!

~Sev

Trollingyou's picture
Trollingyou
+1 to all

Would make guilds more than just an alternative friend list.

Severage's picture
Severage
It's...

That time again.

@Trollingyou: Gracias.

~Sev

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Severage
Weee~

Added in #11.

~Sev

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Gonephishing
@Severage

How about a guild mailing list feature? Sometimes, due to time zone differences, officers or guild masters have a hard time trying to reach everybody (for, say, an event like a guild picture or a guild lottery). This can definitely help!

EDIT: I see spyash has suggested this. Apologies for rehashing the idea!

Severage's picture
Severage
@Gonephishing:

A "Guild Mailing List" has taken the form of a Bulletin Board in my other thread.

Since the Bulletin Board is presumably in the Guild Hall, it's in that thread, not this one.

~Sev

Trapzter's picture
Trapzter
guilds definately...

have to get a function apart from GvG PvP and 2nd friendlist.

bump

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Severage
It's that time again.
Canine-Vladmir-Il's picture
Canine-Vladmir-Il
:)

and i thought i was the only one who watched Adam West's Batman :)
welcome back dude

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Severage
Erm..

Well, you are.

That was friendly Google Images.

Ty, lol.

~Sev