Awesome program! I love it. This is what I have been wanting for a while because it is too hard to see all the hard work that went into the models for this game in that tiny little character window in-game.
Question to Killys or anybody else. Can you change the background in SpiralSpy or are you guys doing that in another program? Thought I saw somebody else ask same question, but maybe I am too dense to understand what the response was...
Thanks
not valid!
fake an [fabulous]!
right? it is right?
Behold, my ultimate creation!
A devilite wielding 2 devilites, one of which is wielding a devilite which is in turn wielding a devilite boss; the other is wielding a devilite wielding another devilite and snarbolax.
I like to think it'll be the final boss of a fiend strata someday. It'll throw chains of devilites at you, which will spawn more devilites. And Snarbolax. Oh god.
It's also kinda silly that the model viewer allows this to happen, though it certainly is fun. I also like applying different textures to weapons. 5* Brandish model with the triglav texture just looks cool.
...add into the picture storm. However I bring forth a picture I have edited heavily, thus it looks rather high quality, I ensure you that there is nothing in the picture that has not been seen in game (or for the matter, anything that isn't technically in game (for example, I have a Volcanic Feather, which might not have been seen yet, but it is in game)).
Without further delay, I present to you what happens when you get carried away with SpiralSpy...
@Bluescreenofdeath Yes, you can change the background, first you need to ensure you can see the environment, then go to preferences. Select New Environment Model, then click config. Then look in rsrc>world>skybox. Some effects will multiply to infinity unless there is a solid background (such as skybox_skywall.dat) to prevent it from doing it. Just mess with the different effects until you get an environment of your choice. I used multiple effects to create the background in the above picture.
Manufacturer: Hewlett-Packard Company
Model: HPE-500f
Processor: AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1045T Processor 2.70 GHz
installed memory(RAM): 8.00 GB
system type: 64-bit Operating System
.......is that what you mean? :o
@SpiralSpy:
I'm running Win7 64-bit, actually, and I know I've got a recent (probably the most recent) JRE installed.
The SpiralSpy .jar goes in the main directory, correct? I checked, and I do have a projectx-pcode.jar in the code folder of Spiral Knights.
I reread the instructions on the Onyxbits site, and noticed that the comamnd-line launcher is only for Linux/OSX. Derp.
@Cobalt
> It'd be nice to have sounds that work, how to fix? :c
I have honestly no idea. I suspect it would require some fiddling around with the classpath, so the audio files can be found. I can look into this, if you can show me an example of... erm ... missing sound. The Modelviewer usually displays missing resources in a red instead of a black font. So, if its a resolver problem, hunt for red items in the controls (screenshots preferred).
@Iskender
> Gremlins look so sad when I look at them in that viewer...
Imagine yourself inspected from all angles and in every detail by an army of peeping toms. Wouldn't make you too happy either :P.
@Jygantic-Forum
> Thank you!
Welcome :)
@Bluescreenofdeath
> Question to Killys or anybody else. Can you change the background in SpiralSpy or are you guys doing that in another program? Thought I saw somebody else ask same question, but maybe I am too dense to understand what the response was...
Go to Edit|Preferences and load a model from world/skybox as an environmental model.
@Grompearl
> .......is that what you mean? :o
Not exactly, but I'll simply guess "Windows 7" from those specs. Open your explorer and let it search for a file called "projectx-pcode.jar". Form there, go up one folder level and drop spiralspy-1.0.jar in there. Then double click it. Hint: You really need to understand how to navigate directories in order to make use of SS.
@Hasturhasturhastur
The SpiralSpy .jar goes in the main directory, correct? I checked, and I do have a projectx-pcode.jar in the code folder of Spiral Knights.
That is correct.
> I reread the instructions on the Onyxbits site, and noticed that the comamnd-line launcher is only for Linux/OSX. Derp.
It can be adapted for windows (but you shouldn't be forced to use the commandline in the first place):
Open a shell inside the main spiral spy directory (I think, theres a shortcut by holding control while rightclicking into the folder). In it, type:
java -jar spiralspy-1.0.jar
Note: this is shorter than the commandline on my website. The longer version actually bypasses SpiralSpy and starts the Modelviewer directly (SS is just a wrapper around Threerings code that starts the application and and configures it for SpiralKnights).
Ok this is awesome :D But I'm having a problem. I can't get the firebreak helm's base (everything except the plumes) in the right colour.. If I change colour manually it just goes bright orange, and even if you change them manually you can't change all of the orange. I'm sure there must be a preset option for the firebreak helm's base's colour in there somewhere since the game uses it but I can't find it >_< Annoying since it's the helm I want to use in my costume and the only one I can't get the right colour
Also, long shot, but is there a way to add a background texture? Like floor or something? Or a way to extract the model with a transparent background, like for graphic editing?
make a video! Just make a basic video showing how to make vog cub with accessories and a background, I think that would help many people and help prove the validity of this program.
Thanks! This worked for me on Win7 64-bit:
java -jar spiralspy-1.0.jar
For some reason double clicking just never worked, even if the JRE was the default app for .jar.
/me commits accessory torture on poor little knight
Woo! I dug deeper and played around with a lot with this program and came across something really incredible. Oh I wish I could share more but I know my comment would jsut be removed. I'll just say this much, it involves the core in some way. ;D
To change the player color of some of the armor you need to click edit, which is a pain, and I can't find out how to scale things, I even got a few errors that i'll post if i get them again.
Also how do you set up environments and props for scenery and tiles?
edit: PREFERENCES
Environment models: Config
then pick a model.
I'm no pro with this (nor do I intend to be)as I've only toyed with it twice for an hour.
Just one of those situations where I find stuff out seconds after asking.
If you want to meddle with the protohelms like me but couldn't figure the lot, you're probably using the wrong model. Look for the model_proto.dat!
Personally, I'm still having the problem as apparently proto_model only has purple details. Hrmn.
don't use proto model. Use the helmet options, (not sure if we're allowed to name paths here), find doubleploom folder and use the model.dat there, you can change the color a little. You can do more recoloring if you mess with model_recolor.dat Red, Blue, Green options show up below that. I haven't bothered to figure it all out so I'll leave that to you. I'm just assuming you are wanting to toy with the tailed helm, if you wanted to mess with another proto helm sorry for my specific advice.
For those who haven't been able to figure out anything, take a look at this. I'd like to note, this video is NOT for those who've been messing with this already, and I don't know how to do everything. And this isn't a tutorial either, just a visual overview.
Full screen viewing is recommended.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_i00-OdJq1w
You notice how the strangers look possessed when you make them walk forward XD
I was more noticing the speed..at the default 1.00 they seem bloody fast, maybe that's why we never see them walk around haven...
they've got
*puts on glasses*
Sonic speed.
the consumed background is considered a spoiler i belive, i'd edit it out of my post if i were you Mukei
Also, strangers probably don't have a full walk animation since they don't walk :P
Lastly I was hoping to find a easier way that didnt look bad like the stretch option, but that seems to be the best choice as of now
Hey, sorry for being a noob with a computer, but how and where is the Spiral Knights Directory? I am on a mac OSX 10.6.8 here, is the directory the actual game? Help please. Thanks!
@Mukei
> Also, long shot, but is there a way to add a background texture? Like floor or something? Or a way to extract the model with a transparent background, like for graphic editing?
I am not sure, I understand what you want? As far as I know, a texture is a "background" that spans over a shape. Extracting models for graphic editing? How do you want to edit? With which software? If you are thinking of The Gimp or Photoshop, simply disable the grid in the view menu and set the background color to a "transparent color" (GIF style).
@Five-hundred
> To change the player color of some of the armor you need to click edit, which is a pain, and I can't find out how to scale things, I even got a few errors that i'll post if i get them again.
Chances are, you are using the wrong model file. Most .dat files describe model parts. Only a few of them actually combine parts into the complete model and expose parameters like color or variant. In fact, this is the reason, why I did not write a modelviewer of my own: You simply have to deduce from the filename what is what.
@Negimasonic
Nice vid!
> I was more noticing the speed..at the default 1.00 they seem bloody fast, maybe that's why we never see them walk around haven...
I think, that global speed setting is actually a percentage of some kind of a world clock that ticks in the background. The server then tells the client at which speed a model moves (when it moves).
@Rangerwill
> Hey, sorry for being a noob with a computer, but how and where is the Spiral Knights Directory? I am on a mac OSX 10.6.8 here, is the directory the actual game? Help please. Thanks!
Use your finder to locate a file called "projectx-pcode.jar". Once you have it, move up one folder, drop spiralspy-1.0.jar there and doubleclick it.
The path should be something like ~/Library/Application Support/Spiral Knights
Is there a way to save what you make with this program? E.g. to have a basic setup of my character so I can test accessories on it faster
@Dottor-Troione
> Is there a way to save what you make with this program? E.g. to have a basic setup of my character so I can test accessories on it faster
Not to my knowledge, but feel free to turn this thread into a wishlist. I'll see which features I can implements and (potentially) pass back to Three rings.
I noticed that environment settings are remembered form one session to the next one.
BTW, I just shot a couple of family portraits <3
What are the settings you use for the grass and background? That looks really cool.
@Dottor-Troione
Lol that second picture is AWESOME. (though perhaps Vana is too small?) I can just imagine a knight being faced with all four...
Ladies and gents,
I just had to delete some more posts with unreleased content spoilers. Some warnings and penalties have already been issued, as spoilers violate the forum guidelines. I'd rather not have to hand out any more, so do refrain.
-Eurydice
phew...still safe I think (I hadn't logged on yet but I don't think I see any deletion).
Hmm, anyone ever find any more default usable models for the player? I still want the animation tracks for attacks. I sorta found a way to possibly edit one and use it that way but its a pain and the not saving thing makes it super inconvenient.
Awesome! Now I can examine all the character models and other props up close and really appreciate them. I don't think this has been said yet but this is really helpful for anyone wishing to make accurate fan art.
Also holy snipes I always thought the Strangers walked like elcor so this is a shock...
On that subject, anyone else notice how tattered a simple stranger's robes are compared to a merchant's? Dang. Simmering class tensions hiding under the surface anyone?
Thanks SpiralSpy, i found it :D.....took me five minutes(my fault) but i found it xD
Btw, how do you put a picture on your profile for the forums? :o
well, the merchants are the ones getting our "shinies" after all haha
Having so much fun with this. So I'd say a big thank you for making this useful tool!
Does anyone know the directories for the accessories? I can't seem to find them in my folders. D:
@ Zeroxh
go up a level from the helm/armor folders into the gear folder --> accessory
oh what the hell ill take the risk
@Sypsy
And if I don't have an accessory folder there?... O_o
I've already looked all over the place in there. And I can view accessories normally in-game, everything's fine.
Nevermind, just gave in and redownloaded the spiralknight client and it's there now.
1. Load multiple models able to have animation.
2. Render scenes in high def or any form of save function
3. Duplicate, instead of creating a new environment element, duplicate an existing one
4. is there any way to load different animations? like attack or any other .dat file that isn't the main model file?
How is it that you guys are able to load more than one model at a time?
Also, how do you get rid of the grid?
Sorry if these have already been answered. :(
Yes I know this is a terrible question, however I will ask as I've tried to get this to work on my own and I'm clearly either missing something or too stupid to understand what I'm doing wrong (probably the latter!!).
I have copied the file into the correct folder, but the file will only open as an archive, I'm not sure what program I'm supposed to be using to open the viewer, could someone give me a hint....?
Run it with Java instead of WinRAR or whatever archiving program you have.
Problem is that there's soooo may files within the Java 6 folder; not sure which particular file to pick...
@Dahnzal
- to disable the grid, go under the "View" menu and uncheck it
- to load other models: Edit --> Preferences, then load what you want under the "environment models" section (you can add as many as you want, and whatever yo want: monsters, items, backgrounds; dunno how to add floor however)
@Elithan
Right Click on the file, then run with... and select Java
Thanks Dottor, I figured that I needed a java program to run this but it's not in the list of applications usable for this, which is my issue, when I go to the Java folder to select the application there's a fair fee to pick from, none of which seem to do anything.
I've sent Spiral-Spy an in game mail so hopefully I'll be able to get an answer from the horses mouth so to speak =)
Much appreciated, I'll give that one a try tonight. Cheers!
Thank you!