Tidder, Badworm, Br-Girl, Hetero. They are a absolute terror to face.
Best Lockdown Players?
feller runs into guardians face-first too much, leaving him vulnerable for a 2hit
If he's changed that then maybe I might think differently
I'm not too bad myself lol, but so far Tidder (pure Gunner) Freezingflame, ummm.... (i forgot.)
Ill edit this when I play some more games today.
Finesse has some talentled players like Lowric, Glowing-Ember (I belive he is in finesse although not quite sure), Golza, Chromiax,Anly and a few others.
Knightmare has some talented players aswell like Chris, Timbalero, Madface, and although he has some four star gear Obey-Egnite is pretty good aswell.
There are a few stand outs in guilds that are lesser known aswell.......
I suck at playing LD I just only have DA and Pulsar 3star and I only get to 2k of damage sometime 6k
Chris, Exileddread, Tennis, Dredio, Jaroche
I don't play a ton of LD, but there have been a few standouts. Sciasz I have had the honor of playing with in guild LD, dude is crazy. And a shout out to
Timbalero. Not only is he an excellent player, when he was against me and my entire team quit, he called for his team to not kill. It was such a nice gesture, and I thought I should share. Thanks for being awesome Timbalero! I can't quite comment on anyone else, I just don't play LD enough!
Blueflood is probably the best non Skolver/Flourish player out there, but Br-Girl has improved a lot at gunning so I think she deserves a mention as well.
As for Skolver players, Lowric is the best Recon I've seen, but it's hard to judge the other two classes. Hetero is a good Striker, Poul was the very first Lockdown beast, and just about anyone else from Finesse I'd probably mention as well.
Any skolver clone with a rapier on striker would be considered "good" by most people. How "good" you are basically comes down to your connection speed and computer performance (Java memory leak. Latency is effected by PC performance as well. If you have any doubt try playing a game like Dragon Saga with a slow PC - it's much more apparent).
I prefer to honor those that are creative and out think opponents.
Hetero has a slick bomber style,
Lowric is by far the best recon I've played against,
Namewithnumbers has a great play-style that I actually made my own variation of it,
Tidder is the best hybrid of gunner/swordsman I've seen,
It's hard to really have a hardcore Guardian style, Badworm is about the best I've seen there.
Best Guardian I've played AGAINST:
Badworm
(TBH, can't think of many other good guardians that I've played AGAINST)
Best Strikers I've played AGAINST (Recently):
Poul
Hetero
Sciasz
Blueflood
Namewithnumbers
Tennis
Glowing-Ember
Some more I can't think of ATM.
Best Recons I've played AGAINST:
Lowric
Br-Girl
Tennis
Also some more I can't think of ATM.
Notable Mentions:
Thatknightisaspy
Chris
Magnus
Anly
Tidder
Madface
Freezingflame
And some more I can't think of ATM. I'll be posting some more soon, keep an eye out.
-Bigfoot
(Some will probably come to me tomorrow or something.)
You would want players with intelligence, not just fast reactions. The issue in random lockdown games are so clustered and unreliable with the team's line up, a lot of said intelligent playing options are therefore unavailable, what you can do and what you want to do is very limited.
Best I have played against recently: Tennis, Dredio, Thatknightisaspy, Tidder, Badworm
Jupey was good, her and I used to have fun syncing and either dominating the map together or clashing and seeing who would come out alive. I believe she quit SK though.
~Gwen
I always find Gvg to be more coordinated, intense and compact than random lockdowns, the bar raise significantly higher here. It not just more skilled players in a team, the teamwork vastly improved as a whole. There's also the new of voice chat like mumble in gvg which helps to improve communication although we find it a hassle and don't need it at all. Beating up relatively new players to get a high score in randoms isn't rocket science, more so when they are 4* gears oppose to 5*. Gvg Lockdown provides a platform that via simple coordination, you can out-play adversaries that you won't beat normally. The knowledge of various strategies as well as the decision-making during matches are as vital as your own skills to beat opponents. Hence, in my opinion, judging people purely from random lockdown can be misinformed and ultimately misguided. I guarantee you will never see any form of intricate strategy utilize in a random game competently.
That said, as far as strikers are concerned, my picks are Exileddread, Corny, Sciaz, Dredio and Kid-knightx. I think Ex is tearing up a brand new tier of his own.
The most versatile player I have witness is ijjl. Most people have a favorite class and when they play the other 2, they might be decent in it but unfortunately the standard and consistency fall in comparison to their best class. Ijjl can play 3 roles, the sporadic striker, the sneaky recon or the offensive guardian equally well without a drop in quality. The impressive thing lies in when he first started out with us as a striker then a recon, he has no trinket slots and use 2 swords only. He adapts into other classes instantaneously. 22.3k damage without trinkets, without ce res, before trinket patch where it's harder to get higher damage due to lower health, a uv-less Barbarous thorn blade/ Voltedge and Vog Set on his 3rd game as guardian show some glimpse of his talent.
I have seen a lot of good people on lockdown, but I must say Dredio is pretty awesome.
Once he played with proto armor against me and won that round and got most damage.
Exile, Ruby, Tim, Hetero, and many others.
I'm pretty god awful, don't fight me. D:
My vote goes to Feller and Sciasz. Sciasz I only played one game against before switching computers and having my LD run get messed up. Never had anyone make me look like a pin cushion the first couple of deaths from him. Though if I was to play again I might have different opinion (I hate playing SK on my laptop). Feller is good and the only other person to get to me for using auto aim. Had some fun games with him. So after he left the next game I did this without auto aim http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/613845918375980585/26DCA65A93C3C7D8774.... Not to mention its my highest damage I have a screenshot of. And also reminds me why I don't go the normal striker plus heart trinket route. I normally use 2 ASI trinkets and play Guardian style.
Also damage isn't the most important thing in LD, getting and holding points. I lol at this screenshot http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/614971580754563542/FCFD141F1E73ED207E4...
Not really good at lockdown so ill consider myself an average player.
I've put up a good few fights in my time. :U
http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/4855/spiral20111228000915.png
And I'm damn proud of it.
Here's what I wrote after lock down testing phrase 4 months ago. ( 10k damage back then is a akin perhaps 25k now since guardian/recon have yet to be buffed and hp trinkets not released yet )
http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/24780
Actually, I don't disagree with you about damage isn't the most important factor although you screenshot isn't the best example since an extra member give massive advantageous.
There was this vog striker yesterday who was the first to show impressive maneuvering and out maneuver me in months.
I think his name was Namewithnumbers
Namewithnumbers has ensured that even if I avoid math classes for the rest of my life I will still fear numbers.
Of course I'm not a great player, but I know it when I'm getting especially massacred, and he certainly does it.
i think i can do well at lockdown. not the best gunner though. im awesome with a sword though.
I consider the "good" people the ones who can play without auto-aim. I know some of the noobs out there think that its fine to use because its part of the game, but seriously.....the computer doesnt need to aim for you....one of the best striker I've seen in tier 2 lockdown that doesn't use auto-aim is meisduhbest. He was slaughtering my whole team!
I consider the "good" people the ones who can play without auto-aim. I know some of the noobs out there think that its fine to use because its part of the game, but seriously.....the computer doesnt need to aim for you....one of the best striker I've seen in tier 2 lockdown that doesn't use auto-aim is meisduhbest. He was slaughtering my whole team!
I consider the "good" people the ones who can play without auto-aim. I know some of the noobs out there think that its fine to use because its part of the game, but seriously.....the computer doesnt need to aim for you....one of the best striker I've seen in tier 2 lockdown that doesn't use auto-aim is meisduhbest. He was slaughtering my whole team!
I consider the "good" people the ones who can play without auto-aim. I know some of the noobs out there think that its fine to use because its part of the game, but seriously.....the computer doesnt need to aim for you....one of the best striker I've seen in tier 2 lockdown that doesn't use auto-aim is meisduhbest. He was slaughtering my whole team!
I consider the "good" people the ones who can play without auto-aim. I know some of the noobs out there think that its fine to use because its part of the game, but seriously.....the computer doesnt need to aim for you....one of the best striker I've seen in tier 2 lockdown that doesn't use auto-aim is meisduhbest. He was slaughtering my whole team!
I consider the "good" people the ones who can play without auto-aim. I know some of the noobs out there think that its fine to use because its part of the game, but seriously.....the computer doesnt need to aim for you....one of the best striker I've seen in tier 2 lockdown that doesn't use auto-aim is meisduhbest. He was slaughtering my whole team!
The next time you post, try not spamming the Save button...
Auto-aim doesn't necessarily make bad players good. A checkable box won't make you OP. People who rely on it are incredibly easy to dodge and out-maneuver.
The best strikers I've seen hands down are Exileddread, Thengel, Dredio, and Sciasz.
Sciasz, Feller, Exiled, nuff said.
This players are the best players at destroying whole teams, and not just by standing around and spamming with auto aim on their FF/BTB.
If OOO took off auto aim, these players would stand out the most. Also, I must admit auto aim doesn't make everyone OP. I play with it off because it makes it easier for me to get guardians.
any skolver who can walk thru my tempest deservs a nod here, still compiling alist but heres what i got so far, dredio, munya, quadratic, skybrandon(wearing the divine set), and a few more i cant recall ATM
Exileddread is the only one murdering me during one of the match. Don't know if the other team (except for Exiled) sucks or what but I am not really that good at Lockdown.
Blazefury
Chris
Statiicz
Sciasz
Namewithnumbers (only watched him on video but he is really good)
theres a gunner out there i hadnt met before that uses valiance - but i forgot his name >.< shame cuz i think hes the best gunner out there right now. charpal is also a tough guard. im surprised kid-knight has been mentioned without any mention of spamisalreadyinus. terrurumi is also a very fast striker much like skybrandon.
I vote Exileddread. I have bad memories of getting pwned by him. I have a screenshot somewhere of him getting over 35k damage.
Having my Guild Master Br-Girl being mentioned here three times makes me proud.
Even knowing that you're right, I have to say, If you have good UV's + Some trinkets, even if you're a baddie, you can kill with autolock.
I know that 90% of the "good players" that are named in this post, would retire if OOO disable the autolock.
Example, the 1vs1 tournament, sadly all I saw in those videos is the 3 hit combo with FF or BTB.
I have to say, the best players I've faced so far are aimboters.
I used to use auto-aim when I played as a guardian.
But as a recon, you have to time everything almost perfectly. Having your aim skewered by just a fraction of a degree ruins everything for you. They find out where you are, and you can't even juggle them in place at that point.
Having auto-aim disabled actually improved nearly every aspect of my game, I encourage you guys to do it.
Best T2 Players I have encountered:
Skybrandon
Rdzknights
Ancientdragon
Nonaware
I would say (not in any order):
-Exileddread
-Thengel
-Ezho
-Namewithnumbers
-Madface
-Chris
-Freezingflame
-Badworm
-Canozo
-Silversray
-(Myself)
Just some names that come to me when I think of Lockdown
But everyone's opinion is different.
I have been experimenting with different playing styles in ld for the past month or so (drunk, recon, full bomber, full gunner, no trinkets, different weapons, etc.) and mostly stayed in t2 with occasional forays into t3 and t1 (so i'm only gonna comment on t2) but to me the people who have stood out by far in t2 are:
skybrandon and ancientdragon.
There are about 10-20 players in the next level of play but those two have separated themselves considerably. Also I've stayed pretty much within my timezone so it is very possible that other people deserve mention but these are the guys that stand apart to me, congrats guys.
Also, for the rest of you t2 guys, calm down about autoaim, pierce weapons, etc. it's a fun game and is not as important as a lot of you seem to think it is. If you're frustrated do what i do and just try to have fun with some different play styles (and yes, the first play style applies to forum posts too :) ).
Have fun everybody
ok I'm just going to go out and say it:
Knightmare (guild)
namewithnumbers
madface
Savita (guild)
Jontlemen
end of thread
sciasz or however you spell it is an absolute nightmare to run into one on one :|
He has some crazy good reflexes or something because he doesn't seem to have a single misplaced move, like ever :|
Edit*
Tidder Is A Gigantic pile of steaming pain-in-my-ass He Is Like the worlds most annoying fly, No matter how many times i try and swat him, i get out maneuvered so these days i switch to trying to nail him from a distance, or just work around him
^ When you face gunners, just shoot them back and rush them. Try to be as unpredictable as possible. And don't use slow guns.
Jaroche, Madface, Zave, Dredio, to name a few. :P