@thanks for that feedback UV , waiting for ther (arc,apo, rating's) comments and checks on em.
thansk again ^__^
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REGAL VALKS
MILITARY VALKS
HEAVY VALKS
COOL VALKS
DUSKY VALKS
All common valks - ~10k CE+ each
HEAVY DRAGON
DUSKY DRAGON
REGAL DRAGON
MILITARY DRAGON
All common dragon - ~8.5k CE+ each
SURGE wings - 10-15k CE
DIVINE VALKS - 45k CE+
WINGS OF FURY - craziness at the moment, but 15-25k CE
#482.
Accurate reflection of this thread's common consensus 2 days ago. One would assume that the prices haven't changed since then :p
thanks alot AGAIN you lot ^__^
EDIT : lepreal sold his arcane halo for 37kce.
proof ----> http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/58727
lepreal has sold them for, in order:
37
35
29
His last sell was recorded on 4/13. One would have to assume that was the last one he has listed as having sold, @ 29k--if one wishes to assume.
Also, if you search the thread you will find more than 3 of his posts say
Arcane Halo sold.
This lets you know that he is flipping them. Which means he is buying them for less than the sell price he has listed. Also, as i said, he sold more than 3 of them, for all we know, he sold the one on 4/13 for under 29k or it is the 29 one, it surely isn't the 37 or 35k sells as it stands to reason he has them listed in the order he sold them.
(its also possible he sold on 4/13 for more, but unlikely. Basically, all we conclude with accuracy is that the 4/13 sell is either A-the 29k sell, or B-price not given, and C-almost certainly not the 37 or 35k sells. These are the only LOGICAL conclusion to draw.)
so what would you suggest the new price range to be?
a page or few back apop or arc--they have the same pic, lol--said they were offered 30k, i believe. But i don't actually know, since i've not paid attention to the arcane halo market. (also saw one with a 1.3m bid on ah, don't know what it went up to).
the gy who said got 30kce offer was me ^__^ .
offer made by achiles (not sure name spellin). and rejected blatantly tbh.
and now another guy offered 3 randomn drag wings +4kce (might reject this too tbh)
# Rating: Reading everything that has gone on, I'll just forget everything and wipe the slate clean, I honestly enjoy our little chats but I'm getting more and more busy with work and social life, its not worth it lol. Just so we are clear I show those people respect who show me respect. Its a rule I have always lived by. I hope from now on we can both show each other respect and get on.
But you still going to make that list suka. The one you said that the prices are "blatantly wrong" I honestly want to know. So list em all here!!!! <69.
3hours left lol. So you got some time XD
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# Celestial-Dragoon: Nothing for me to add here, you got some good price tags already. We spoke on steam about it so I think we are all agreed on the price tags already given by all these lovely peeps <69
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# Uni: The way you know so much info on people is very worrying. Its even scary. I have to be very careful around you from now on...... :D
I enjoy our repartee (obviously not in the most strict sense of the word sometimes from you ;) hehe <69) too much >:D
If they were all perfect then I'd have nothing to do :(
I will give you a couple though:
* Arcane .....current market price .....25,000-35,000 CE
* Divine .....current market price .....15,000-20,000 CE
Vitasuit Deluxe w/ Heavy Wolver Tail, Heavy Valkyrie Wings and Fire low UV
Unimportant Structural changes suggested for front page.
#1. Should be implemented. For the change of accessory type (what slot it goes into), I recommend that we amend the dividers from dashed lines to asterisks. It will create a better visual break and give a cleaner overall appearance. As it is now, the dividers simply look busy and distracting, imo.
was:
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change to :
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the double spacing, asterisks instead of dashes--since dashes are used above and below sections, and bolded words all work to better offset the various accessory types.
#2. This one is arguable, but I personally think it would be better, if you don't, fair enough. It does slightly break up the consistency of the structure.
--Create a separate categories for Prism, Divine, Volcanic, and Shadow. Leave these style in the original runs (or remove if you like) but @ the end add sections for these 4 rare styles. When listing group the like slots together with a spacing break between. (go in the same order you do for the rest of the post. E.I. helm top options. line break. Helm front options. Line break. etc..
EX:
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Helm Tops:
Birthday Candle....
Bolted Vee....
Crown...
flower...
...(and the rest till the end of helm tops)
Wide VEE...
Helm Fronts:
Binoculoars....
Dapper Combo..
Game Face...
ETC....
Its would be beneficial for some to be able to look at the pricing of all prism/divine/volc/or shadow items at once. Maybe they know they want a prism side helm slot accessory but are unsure of what. They could go to prism and peruse the list and say, hmmm 50k ce for prism tennas or 10k for prism vents, i'll go vents. (not a price check, random numbers, lol.) Only the prism, volc, divine, and shadow are special enough to get their own sectioning such as this.
#3.
Remove the (provided by XYZ) after prices. Again, it makes the thread look cumbersome and and harder to digest.
I understand giving credit and all, but i'd hope no one around here would have qualms with their pricing suggestions being placed in this thread without a bibliography page attached. After all, its being presented as "the official" thread, not "Arc's pricing" thread. So any discerning individual will understand you are not claiming credit for all the information gathered here.
CONCLUSION
The first suggestion should be implemented, while idea #2 couldbe implemented.
Making some of these changes might make knights new to this thread more apt to find the item and look at the pricing, rather than flying past it and just asking.
Finished Science finals at last... X-X
:c unique, I'll find a way to lead more pages, I have in the past and I SHALL PREVAIL ( ̄^ ̄)ゞ
I like your suggestions. Especially #2&3, I don't particularly care about #1, aesthetics to me :/
@Rating arcane is >30
@Kenshi hmm, we can ignore the uv... I'd say 8-10kce? Need some backup, I really don't know how vitasuits look as a costume
# Uni: I like your ideas. Change is always good. But I'm going to be very busy for the next few weeks. Got a promotion so much more work now lol. Finally someone who realises its not a list of one persons work rather a group of people. That makes it impossible for one person to distort prices. I read post 549. It makes sense. The only reason I respond each point is because I dont want the other person to feel upset so I always try my best to explain everything as best I can. But I agree with you.
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# Apo: Feels good to be free. Now its the stress of waiting for your exam resilts. Goodluck. I hope you do well and achieve your academic goals.
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# Kenshi: I would set the B/O at 15kce with S/O at 8kce. Vitasuits and Snarby coats are two of my favourite armours for costumes, they look very nice. Any offer of around 12kce take it.
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# Rating: Its been 2 days and still no list of the "blatantly incorrect" accessories.....<69
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# To all the lovely peeps: Going to be very busy over the coming weeks. That means any changes you wish me to make wont be instant. Please carry on helping everyone. I'll ninja the list from time to time. When I see someone make an update list.
Kind Regards.
What do you reckon I could ask for my Argent Peacemaker ASI Med?
I'm not sure on this. I saw your post and thought wow thats an odd one. I'm surprised no one has commented on it. But if I had to take a guess I would say
* surge ribbon .....2,000-5,000ce
Reason. Last recorded sale of surge wings and parrying blade on my list was 10kce. That could be inaccurate now, but no one has come forward with a recent sale of one. So based on that I dont think ribbon is more sort after than wings or parrying blades. Like I said I am not sure on it, so its just one man basing it off the price of more sort after items. Prismatic ribbons are very expensive but there OP regardless of what accessory they are.
Hopefully someone will correct me, and I can put a more accurate price tag of it on my list. Remember I'm looking for recent sales on the more popular/sort after items. Not opinions. If it were opinions the list would be 100% complete now. Now come on and help this guy out. :D
sounds good to me; I've heard differing opinions on its current value, though. Someone said 70-80k cr, another said 200k cr+. Not entirely sure who to believe (other than yourself, of course, as your reputation precedes you ;) )
sounds good to me; I've heard differing opinions on its current value, though. Someone said 70-80k cr, another said 200k cr+. Not entirely sure who to believe (other than yourself, of course, as your reputation precedes you ;) )
You can get at least 2kce for it, Arc is right. If you find someone who's buying surge accs, it will go for 4kce :D
Hey guys, I've almost finished collecting my core set of bombs with CTR VH. And am starting to look to the rest of them.
How much would the following bombs cost with CTR VH?
Graviton Vortex
Voltatic Tempest
Deadly Shard Bomb
Deadly Crystal Bomb
Deadly Dark Matter Bomb
Shocking Salt Bomb
Deadly Splinter Bomb
Scintillating Sun Shards
Appreciate all the help!
Cool. Sorry for such a late reply.
Goodluck with your sales.
Graviton Vortex- 35kce
Voltatic Tempest- 22-25kce
Deadly Shard Bomb- 18-22kce
Deadly Crystal Bomb- 17-21kce
Deadly Dark Matter Bomb- 16-20kce
Shocking Salt Bomb- 13-16kce
Deadly Splinter Bomb- 13-16kce
Scintillating Sun Shards- 13-16kce
I think XD
Really appreciate it! I know that the majority of those bombs are going to be harder to find than they will be to craft/roll myself. But when I do find them I hope that I'll be prepared to buy them!
Thanks again!
My prices are for 2-3* versions. adjust as you see fit.
Graviton Vortex--20-24k ce
Voltatic Tempest--30-35k ce
Deadly Shard Bomb--8-10k (so much worse than DBB for everything)
Deadly Crystal Bomb--7-9k
Deadly Dark Matter Bomb--10-14k (worth a little more because only jelly bomb aside from DR)
Shocking Salt Bomb--10-14k (same as above)
Deadly Splinter Bomb 7-10k
Scintillating Sun Shards 8-10k
You basically will have to buy most of these at whatever star level you can find them. Just not very many out there.
The shard bombs are all fairly lousy, tbh, so the value is not real great, but thats offset by the fact that you won't find many out there, so value rises a bit. The Dark and Salt bombs will be the most valuable of the shards, since the Dark Retribution is the only other quality slime bomb. Crystal bomb being elem goes for a bit more too. But truth is, nitronome is basically better against all slime and elem enemies, and DBB is better vs gremlins and undead than basically any shadow/elem weapon. Shards are another vanity weapon. In every situation you can find something better via bombing.
--mayhaps they'll buff our shards someday, and if they do, you'll be lucky to have picked them up now--
Also, given the nearly useless nature of shard bombs, they don't necessarily scale up in value as you raise their rank. That is to say, just because a 5* costs 4k ce more to unbind than a 2* (probably already unbound) doesn't necessarily mean its going to sell for 4k ce more. While it may be worth 8k for a fairly useless bomb just to have it, it might not be worth 12k to have it at 5*. Consider it like buying a fixer upper, pay less to buy a house that needs some work, the work that needs to be done is leveling and heating. I'd rather buy a useless bomb that needs some "work," than to buy it at 5* and pay a premium for the granite tabletops and custom shower.
And i think the prices on the grav and lightning bomb needs be swapped. The Graviton is basically useful for RJP, and is very fun to use but completely unnecessary given its T2 and super easy nature. And then its basically just clumping jellies together while people charge blast with swords (just as easily accomplished with a non-ctr vh or elec charge style). Still a sweet bomb, but not a terrible amount of utility.
The lightning capacitor starts out as a token item and is a great bomb for Lockdown (granted everyone gets UVs to try and offset it, but that just tells you how good it is vs those who don't!) Also, It is better vs almost all enemies, even those that are strong vs elem, as the shock ticks work on nearly everything and help out quite a bit. As pure bomber you can melt and shock through a great many enemies (such as in arenas) by swapping back and forth b/w AoA and this bomb.
Look at it this way, i don't think you'd find anyone on the game who would trade their vh ctr light cap bomb for a vh ctr graviton. and probably wouldn't find anyone on the game who wouldn't trade their grav for a lightning cap. [i say this as a hyperbole, but my point is the same.]
Lastly, I feel i speak with authority on this, as I have 8-10 vh ctr bombs on a pure bomber (not even a gun or sword, aside from pro to) alt who has done all the shadow lairs and numerous FSC runs. (i'm fairly worthless for anythign but watering on the mask phases, lol) I've even solo'd all the Danger missions with 1 death or less, that one with the stupid gun pup not included. not going to bother killing him with respawning pots, lol.
Divine Mohawk. I purchased one this afternoon for 1m crowns. :D
Now i have 3. muwahahahhahhhaha. (1 is bound, and 1 already has a costume planned. Third one i'll merely satisfies my hoarding/collecting impulses)
Morning. So would you say a new price range for Divine Mohawk is 1-2million cr?
Rating said he sold one for 2mill recently. So that has to be taken into consideration or no?
Off topic. Managed to get Alan Wake to run at around 45fps. Game is awesome. Thanks :D
Price check on extra tall mod?
Also if it sold for 2 mil recently I'd change it to 1-2 mill (depends completely on the buyer).
I thought they sold for 15kce a pop. E.Small the same aswell.
Xshort is 20k ce, imo.
15k=quick sell
21-23=max sell
I think we can keep everyone happy with a 15-21k ce price range. Anyone with half a brain will see the wide price range and determine "i'm in need of CE, lets get 15k and WOOHOOO." or "i finally got something of value, idc if it takes a month or so, i'm getting my 20-21k ce for this bad boy."
While i think Xshort is better, its no more rare. I would guess that Xtra Tall goes for the same, or maybe slightly slightly less.
Divine Mohawk
even though i bought mine for 1m, I think i got lucky. I'd peg the price @ 1.5m-2m.
Before anyone says that i'm giving false or inflated pricing to raise the value of the item now that i have it, i assure you thats not the case. I WON'T BE SELLING THIS (unless i get an offer around 3-4m on it. in which case, i'll post in here and give the name of the buyer). If anyone thinks otherwise, feel free to book mark and you can check back with me in a month, or two months. I'll either still have 2 unbound mohawks, or i'll have the costumes to show for it---that is to say enough costumes to account for all 3, the one i have bound now and the two i have unbound. Also, for the record, I would have went up to 1.5m to get it, if i had to, but i would not have went over that. I had originally planned to buy that 2m Divine Mohawk that sold in AH for the starting bid if i could be so lucky to snipe it. And if i had, i'd still have got this one, lol. Despite these last 2 wks, this is an item that rarely shows up.
Ok - I've got some costume armors that I'm considering selling. I'd love some opinions on what to sell them for/what to expect.
Armor of the Fallen
-UV Shock Low
-Heavy Valkyrie Wings
-Heavy Cat Tail
-Haunted Aura
Ice Queen Mail
-Snowfall Aura
-Crest of Winter
Ice Queen Crown
-UV Piercing Low
-UV Curse Low
-Crown of Winter
-Surge Dapper Combo
Then just some basic, UV and Accessory lacking Shadow Lair sets. I crafted them with intent to make nice armor costumes, but can't see myself getting around to it, so I might sell.
-Arcane Salamander Set
-Heavenly Iron Set
I'd greatly appreciate any advice on pricing!
@arc in this case i i would follow closely to UV's argument... maybe putting it 16-24 , 25 considering those high ones sold at 2m (as u told me)
Armor of the Fallen
-UV Shock Low
-Heavy Valkyrie Wings
-Heavy Cat Tail
-Haunted Aura
....12,000ce
Ice Queen Mail
-Snowfall Aura
-Crest of Winter
.....12,000ce
Ice Queen Crown
-UV Piercing Low
-UV Curse Low
-Crown of Winter
-Surge Dapper Combo
.....8,000-10,000ce
AS A CUSTOM SET .....20,000-22,000ce
First off, all three of your armors suffer greatly from not having a UV on them (and not just because thats my name!!)
Your UVs make them unattractive and unsellable, if not for the fact that they AT LEAST shadow lair armors (but not very desirable ones). I'd put non-uv'd shadow lair gear @ 6k per piece, AT MOST--and sadly, sometimes they fall below this, if you actually want to sell. So we will start with a base value of 6k per piece. (a few hundred higher on some a few hundred lower on others....so lets say it averages out).
Next to address a simple fact, that is not going to do you any favors. Since you have no UVs (or bad ones) any real value of these pieces are going to be derived from the accessories that adorn them. Bound accessories are worth much less than unbound ones. Having them bound to no UV gear is even worse, and having them bound to a low UV gear is worst of all. At least with no UV i can buy it as a pure costume piece (upper end players prefer a max UV even for a costume, for lacking a max UV i'd rather have no UV. That low is a freaking pimple on a pretty face).
So with the explanation of why these appraisals are going to be lower than you like, i'll press on.
Ice queen. Lets be honest, its a relatively ugly helm and an uglier armor. It does have its supporters, a small niche who really like it (clearly i am not one). So while its all opinion based, we can't ignore that that opinion poll would come up with a majority dislike. So, on we forge.
Ice queen mail
10-12k ce snowfall aura
2.5k ce wintercrest
so 12.5-14.5k ce worth of accessories. I'm going to call it 13k.
Value Reduction
now lets reduce that value due to the fact they are already bound, and bound to a no UV armor. This is arbitrary. I would estimate 50 reduction to account for the fact that they are bound, and their are 2 bound, meaning you have to find someone who wants BOTH of them on it. but then i'll push it back up 10% because they are all ice-themed and people like to stay in the lane with themes. So the ice armor+winter accessories will appeal to the unimaginative masses (sorry).
So 6k ce (for armor) plus .60(13k)=7.8. Which gives us 13.8k ce. And i'd (if i was selling) round it up to 15k ce and give it time. If i couldn't find 15k ce for it, then i'd drop the value. If your heart sinks at 15k then you can choose to start @ 18k and choose to think that my 40% reduction is too much. But I think its spot on.
Final analysis:
true value=13.5-14k ce.
Would seek= 15-16k to start.
Ice Queen Helm
Crown Of Winter = 15k ce
Surge Dapper = 5k ce
Total accessory value = 20k
Reduction
This one is more complex, and less advantageous. Good news=The dapper combo goes great on it. So i am going to only give you a 25-30% reduction on that. Guestimate 3600 value added. Bad new=the crown of winter takes narrows your field down. You move from the small number of players who really like the IQC to the small number who want it with a dapper combo (but a nicely matching one) and shave it even further to the small number who want the IQC with mustachio, and a crown that is embedded in the hat, and willing to pay quite a bit extra for someone else's eccentric tastes. So you have narrowed you field down quite thoroughly (just be thankful you don't have a summer crown on it, lol). So i'm going to say you have reduced the value of your crown by 60% and i'm tempted to go down to 70, but i wont. So i'm adding 6k for the crown. I'm also inclined to say, if i were buying it, i'd take another 10-15% off for having two ugly low UVs. I don't want those eyesores on my costume, and i certainly don't want to pay nearly 10k ce extra for your accessories if i'm saddled with low UVs to actually use. Now i feel like if i'm spending that much i have to roll till i get a max. But for the sake of the appraisal, i'll not take that 10-15% off. You can find someone who doesn't feel this way, it just won't be me (or a lot of other upper end players).
so reductions go from 20k to 9.6k ce. Go ahead and round up to 10k (or down to 9k) depending on your feelings.
10k (accessories) + 6k (armor)= 16k. (subtract another 10-15% for UVs potentially--we will use 12.5%). =14k
Final Analysis
true value= 14-16k
Would seek = 18k (maybe start at 20k, but i'd give up pretty quickly and go to 18k and drop again as necessary).
I think if you could get 30k for the set you'd be doing quite well. Only my opinion though. Costume based and sales are the hardest to judge.
Armor of the Fallen
Heavy Valk wings= 10k ce
Heavy Cat Tail = 10-14k ce
Haunted = 0 (could take down the value but it can be taken off for free)
UVs=a slight reduction :(
total = 22k
Reduction
Going to say about 40% reduction in accessory value. I would give about 30% for accessories already bound and another 10% (could even be 15-20% for UV+Armor) for UVs--i wont' take off for the armor in this valuation. so 22k x .70 = 15.4k Just as i rounded some up because it seemed low, this seems a touch high. i'm going to round down to 15k.
15k. This armor is only worth about 4 to 4.5k ce. Really without accesssories on it, i don't think you could sell it at all. Someone can buy it for 3500 ce from depot and get a lousy low UV with the 500 extra ce it'd cost to buy yours FOR UNBIND. But yours has accessories, so we are going charge 4.5k for it.
so 15k +4.5k = 19.5k
Final analysis
True Value = 18-20k
Would seek = Start @ 22k drop to 20k as necessary, drop further as necessary.
NOTE:
as a merchant, i'd not buy any of these even at the bottom of the true value range. I'd try to sell them for the would seek value as i feel its the highest value i could get for them without having to wait a year to sell, or for a sucker to buy them. And i'd not hold out great hope @ the would seek prices. I'd start there and start dropping as time goes on.
Also it is important to note, as a merchant, that i DO NOT buy costume pieces with multiple accessories, for all the pitfalls i've listed above. It is too time consuming and tedious to try and figure out an accurate price i'd pay and feel safe in selling for profit in a time frame that makes sense financially. Others have done well, but i simply don't like to narrow down my target market that thoroughly. Not unless its something mainstream like divine on skolver, volcanic on Vog, etc.... Looks i don't like, but the masses do.
recently sold cool vertical vents 139kcr, heavy vertical vents 144kcr, cool vertical vents 142kcr, fancy com unit x2 19kcr,fancy maedate 25kcr, fancy mech wings 30kcr,cool pipe 38kcr.
# Uniquevariant: .....you killed it mate.
# Shoutentenshu: Thanks a lot. This will help to update the list. Good luck in all your future trades :D
Edit: List updated with your sales. Thanks again.
Thanks for such a detailed appraisal!
I decided to roll UVs on the Fallen set - I ended up with Fire Medium on the helm, and Shadow High on the armor. How drastically does that alter the price?
I plan on doing the Ice Queen set next to hopefully improve value as well.
@Iconoclaust doesn't bring up too much, maybe tack on 1kce...
@Unique utterly destructive, mate XD
Don't Starve Steam Trading Card .....Wilson.
Anyone know how much this costs in ce?
Thanks
Edit: Asked around, looked at steam market. Looks like its 600-720ce.
they are selling for 1tf2 key now, about 1500-1700ce at the current rate O__o but i just find that ridiculous and i guess u can get one for around 750ce
normal dapper combo prices are too low. should be 4,000 CE on the low end. I'd put 4,000 - 6,000 CE on average
here's a couple more at first glance:
normal round shades (except regal and heavy) too low. should be 85,000 - 130,000 cr
normal mustaches (except cool, toasty, and military) too high. should be 40,000 - 60,000 cr
normal helm guards are up. should be 15,000 - 25,000 cr
normal side blades (except heavy) too low. should be 60,000 - 90,000 cr
that's all I can do for now. should be enough to help an update of the list
# Celestial: No way lol. On steam market yesterday they were less than a dollar.
# Rating: So in 4 days you only managed to pick out 5 inaccurate prices <69? You failed to meet the deadline and also failed to convince me or anyone the list is composed of "blatantly incorrect" prices. :D
Dude come on. I'm trying my best here to turn a new leaf over, on everything that was said by you in the past. Please dont dissapoint. We all would love to know what is "blatantly incorrect" from you, so I can update the list. Thanks.
Maybe I'm bieng slightly harsh. Ok you did give us 5. But they still fall within range on some. I wouldnt say they are "blatantly incorrect", rather slightly inaccurate. <69
im talking in the *people who dont have RLF* so they have to buy with keys, etc. dont know about the steam market tbh.
Ah. Yeah I guess so. Still, most people over at the DS trade site are going off steam market and buying and selling for ce that way. Thing is I cant find a buyer for the last card lol.
I've not kept up with the dragon wings/valk wings (common) so i'd just be parroting back what i've seen, which would basically be me telling you what someone else thinks...not going to do that, lol.
Wings of fury--in flux. They will rise and dip as this promo ends, then stabilize in a week or so before gradually rising in value over time. If you want a price range of about where they are now, keep on aye on one of the numerous pairs in the AH (they seem to be right around 1m, usually a bit over)
Cool wings valk--a pair in AH right now. Keep an eye on them. Probably same thing for dragon wings. All dragons and all valks could ideally draw the same value as any other in the series (rares notwithstanding) just a matter of finding someone who needs the particular flavor to finish a look.
Divine Valk wings= 45-50k ce. I've seen 40-50k, but as i've passed on multiple offers of 40k i feel they are worth more than 40k, not to say its impossible to find a pair down there, lol.
p.s. AWWWW YEAH. on top of two pages in a row (at least on my comp.)