Spiral Knights - Is there anything the community WON'T complain about?

Is there anything the community WON'T complain about?

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Thu, 01/09/2014 - 15:29

Xtweeterx

THIS IS NOT MEANT TO BE A COMPLAINT THREAD. IT IS HERE ONLY FOR THE SAKE OF DISCUSSION AND OPINION

Most common

Item and damage balance

Normally when I see this, I just want to smash through my desk with my forehead. Keep in mind I'm not saying these aren't valid, I would like to finally see some proof of imbalance before hearing their concerns. We get it. We've already heard this more than one million times. You're obscuring the voices of the other people.

Lack of new content

IMO these aren't as bad as balance. Yes, I know you're all strived for new content, but has it ever crossed your mind that they're working their butts of 24/7 and planning new things for the future? How about YOU try making your own MMO and keep coming up with clever ideas. If there's one thing my dad has taught me, it's "Be happy with what you have, not what you want to have." And it seems to get even worse when they make prize box promos, or heck. Even look at the comments on the new starter pack on Steam! (as in click here)

Another thing includes is that it wasn't the content they wanted (i.e Grinchlin Assault). I can understand your concerns, but if you don't like it, don't play it. Ever cross your mind? No? I didn't think so. Which relates to another fatherly saying: "Save your breath. Why not just say your last words while you're on your deathbed?"

One more synonymous example is that I used to be a comedic ad-maker back in my first community. It was fun at first, but I was running out of ideas and eventually gave up the business. And I was even quite popular as to get recognized in-game as well.

One last thing includes people outright throwing their PCs/Laptops across the room in suspense of upcoming content (see the 9/2013 development thread). I mean, what's the one thing uncle Gaben has always said to us?

Most recent/uncommon

Waiting for stuff do die is boring? Really?

What would a game be without some sense of realism, huh? There's not much to say. The NEXT threads we'll be seeing is the amount of spirals in each tileset. Be not too much or not enough. X.X

SK will have a bad future

This can be synonymous to all of the complaints we've been hearing, but I won't be ruling this out.

I wouldn't draw a conclusion just yet. I play games simply to kill time. If I see something wrong, I'll report it via F2. I can't really speak for this one because I've never really seen any of this (except a bug where you put up your shield literally 5 millaseconds before getting hit and you STILL take damage). Again, not ruling it out. I'm just saying it might be to early to draw conclusions like. Even with the evidence provided, that's his point of view, and I'm giving mine right here. Not forcing it, sharing it.

Age-old topics

The old UI vs the new UI STILL!?!?!
If you remember around the second anniversery event, SK revamped the user interface. As of course, many were flustered and maybe even quit. This is probably one of the most narrow-minded things I have ever seen. I understand your anger, but don't take it so seriously.

It took me literally 10 seconds to adjust myself to this. And you know what I did next? Went on about my business reaching Vanguard without a hitch (well, except fiend levels of course. /lol). You know what you all did? Quit the game, sent death threats to OOO on the forums or support tickets, or even went to their HQ with an AK-47 and got arrested (okay, maybe that's an overstatement)... Well, maybe not all of you.

Heck, people are having fangasms just by looking at someone did here (Hey look, I can point out posts with the # thing!).

What you all don't know is that back when my Azure armor was my only 5* armor, and I kept going to FSC from the Tier 3 terminal (Yes. I was smart enough to NOT asked to be raised among FSC and have an unbalanced SK life. And that's using the word properly right there), I was actually getting quite bored similar to how I am at this very second. Dreading logging on, no motivation to get anything done. When simply BAM! New UI to the face. I was actually awestruck to see them do something this nice. Basically, if it weren't for the monster cakes and new UI, I would be less good (for lack of a better term) than I am today.

Change is life. Weather you like it or not. As long as it doesn't harm anybody as just a simple cosmetic things, it's alright. Heck, I've been living in my ghetto neighborhood for 15 YEARS Since I was born I lived there. It was my home. Quiet, bright sunny days, friendly neighbors, then we had to move to a different house closer to my dad's new workshop. Did I like it? No. Did it take me a month or 2 to adjust to sleeping to the constant pace of cars driving by so close and loudly? Yes. Do I still think about my old place? Yes. Do I complain about wanting to live there again? I would have been grounded a long time ago (TL;DR: No.)

I hate to be the one asking this, but are the forums really at their worst when something big is about to happen weather if we or I know it or not? Similar to the weight of this boredom and new UI timing (though this never happened with the battle sprites)? Come on. The gunner update is bound for this month. Shouldn't we all be getting orbs and crowns for recipes?

Keep in mind I'm aware that I could be wrong on some of these or missing a few.

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 15:44

Clown-Nine

Anything we won't complain about

Lag.

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 15:35

Glad-Amparus

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Discussion

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 15:46

Midnight-Dj

tweeter, why are you complaining about complainings?

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 16:14

Sandwich-Potato

You forgot one:

Trolls who go off-topic.

And you DO know how much a millisecond is, right? 5 of them = 5/1000 = 1/200 = >1%.

Keep in mind I'm not saying these aren't valid, I would like to finally see some proof of imbalance before hearing their concerns.

Alright, how about the Lancer Knightz data on weapon DPS, Zeddy's comments on the Valkyrian Aura, his tests about the Dazzling Light Ray, the Winmillion, a Polaris's ability to knock back shielding enemies when other knockback-centered ones can't, and the Acheron, which was conveniently tested by the Knightz.

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 16:46

Bamzalot

This was you?

"One more synonymous example is that I used to be a comedic ad-maker back in my first community. It was fun at first, but I was running out of ideas and eventually gave up the business. And I was even quite popular as to get recognized in-game as well."

That was YOU!? I haven't played that game since I realized it would crash and burn down faster that the Titanic. But I can remember seeing those ads pop up with every next web page. Congratulations, somebody remembers you.

Anyways, it's really no use to post threads like these. I've never replied to any of them because everything possible to say has already been said. People will find anything, ANYTHING to complain about. We gravitate towards the wrongs of the world and we will never go anywhere else. Threads such as this can only make the situation worse.

Ok, this is what I have to say about every complaining about complaining threads ever. Goodbye.

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 16:42

Flowchart

If you want proof of imbalance, look no further than your own thread.

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 16:56

Zopyros-Il

BEEP BOOP

Tweeter, it's really not like you try to really contribute anything substantial to General Discussion. Making threads on the most utterly random topics that would be better fit into Gremlin Chatter if not for their mild relation to SK (in some cases).
Getting angry at people who are trying to bring up actual topics, such as the "monster dying taking too long" thread (which while it's a minor inconvenience was actually trying to discuss something), it's honestly childish.

Item and Discussion balance
You're getting angry with something that people HAVE brought up valid evidence for. Just because you're too lazy to search for the information for yourself or even check back on the threads where people have literally handed you evidence, doesn't make the points that people bring up any less valid.

Though if you think that the amount of damage that Acheron dish out in comparison to other swords and weapons, even to neutral enemies and resistant enemies, that's fine.
But it's hard to ignore the disparity between Blitz Needle's damage between the other Autoguns and especially between all other Handguns. Saying that it's justified that it does that much damage because it needs to stay still to fire doesn't work either. Antigua line has to hold still, fire all six shots, and even then doesn't do the anywhere near the same damage. Magnus line slows you to a CRAWL, fires one shot, blasts you backwards, fires a single non-piercing shot, and does pitiful damage in comparison to Blitz.
It's hard to ignore how superior Chaos set is in comparison to all other armor. All of its weaknesses are countered simply by the fact that you have a perfect shield. No damage or statuses can break through unless you're careless and even then you have a Dash to be able to get out of sticky situations. That's not even taking into consideration UVs and Trinkets!
Then there's how defensive armor doesn't provide enough defense to make not having any increased movement, charging, attack speed, or damage. You can BARELY take a single hit more if you're wearing a defensive set in comparison to a offensive set with the same damage type resistances.

If you really can't see the problems with all of that, you're either really bad at math or trying to blatantly ignore the numbers.

Lack of new content
Making MMOs is OOO job. Trying to say that people should try making their own MMO to understand why there's not a rush of content is never a good argument. You're asking amateurs to try the work of professionals.
Yes, there's more to making an MMO than most people would ever understand, but even in comparison with other MMOs, some with the same number of devs, the content production here in SK is slow.

Waiting for stuff to die is boring
Being angry about a single thread about a topic that has honestly never been brought up before in General Discussion, is (once again) childish. Either participate in the discussion or ignore the discussion entirely. Don't put down other people for making threads, especially when so many of your own provide nothing in the way of discussion aside from trying to start arguments.

SK will have a bad future
There are threads like this in EVERY forum. Along with "is this game dying?," it's one of the most common threads you'll find in any forum. Ignore these threads or sensibly try to provide examples to the OP about why that isn't the case.

The UI business
OK. You got used to it and so did everyone else that still plays the game. That's fantastic! Good for you, Tweeter! I'd clap, but it's not an accomplishment worth clapping for.
That's not the problem or the reason that people still bring it up.

The reason that people still bring up the UI overhaul is because of the reasons stated in the thread. There are definite problems with the new UI in comparison to the old one.
- Names get cut off on the party display
- Names and chat overlap in LD
- Gigantic portrait does nothing and just takes up space
- Gigantic portrait is also glitchy and often doesn't render accessories
- Team health display is less specific about how little health your team has
- Team health display also doesn't show team deaths as efficiently as old UI
- Equipment isn't always shown on screen and doesn't show Curse status on weapons
- Redundant buttons and gauges
- I could honestly go on and on about this

Then there's personal preference over the visual style, but that's personal and down to whether or not you think high saturatetion, bevels, and shiny gradients fit the game better than the muted, rounded, and simple look of the old UI.
It's still the biggest splitter about the UI, but you don't seem to acknowledge that factor since you got used to it, so everyone else should too.

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It's honestly fine that you love the game and try to see no flaw with it or any changes that are made to it. Just for crying out loud, stop getting mad at other people for either trying to get things changed or being nostalgic about things. It's (for the third time) childish.

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 17:20

Mystrian

The community does not argue about topics in Gremlin Chatter. I even tried to get people to stop arguing My thread (now in grave yard)

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 19:05

Skayeth

I have a strong urge

I have a strong urge to make art for this thread. >:D
Maybe I should color, maybe I shouldn't.

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 19:13

#10

Oroseira

There is one trope that explains this thread.

This.

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 19:42

#11

Parkermealey

I've seen more threads

I've seen more threads complaining about complaining threads than have seen actual complaining threads.

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 20:21

#12

Dean-Zane

I for one

I for one complain about these useless threads from you Tweeter... no offense or anything.

They are... (I'll even put it in spanish if english ain't good enough) "UNNCESSARY" or "INNECESARIO"

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 20:37

#13

Wavara

Hey yo, I herd u liek mudk- I mean, complains, so we created a thread about complaining threads, so u can complain about complaining threads.

(sorry, I couldn't help)

Dean-Zane: "InnecesarioS", plural.

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 20:41

#14

Skayeth

That's it!

THAT'S IT I'M MAKING A SK DOODLE FOR THIS THREAD! :D

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 21:38

#15

Dean-Zane

@Wavara

:P sorry about that... i started complaining cuz my finger was too tired to hit that "s" key.

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 22:15

#16

Ardent-Light

Hello Mr.Hypocrit!

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 22:19

#17

Vesperaldus

I think that was more of

I think that was more of sarcasm. Also, I'm unsure as to why it should be plural (not that I'm a Spanish speaking individual myself).

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 23:11

#18

Wavara

Because "They" is a plural person. "They are unnecessary" translates as "[Ellos] son innecesarios"

And I think Ardent was referring to the OP.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 01:24

#19

Fangel

We have to go back! Back, back where? To the meta!

In short, if we can even vaguely spell it, we will complain about it.

As I can spell thread head, I'm going to go ahead and complain about how the original post is highly opinionated.
Fangel whines pathetically.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 02:09

#20

Scirio

What would a game be without

What would a game be without some sense of realism, huh? There's not much to say.

I ocassionally murder a sentient giant jelly with a crown using a gun with infinite ammo and seemingly being held together with some sort of magic by using the charge which releases a dozen hentai tentacles out of nowhere. I'm glad they used realism here, tweeter.

I was referring to obsidian carbine vs jelly king ofcourse.

I do like the irony of you complaining about other people complaining.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 04:12

#21

Hexzyle

seemingly being held together with some sort of magic

If you think it's being held together with magic then you probably would be gobsmacked by acoustic levitation, ionocrafts and quantum entanglement.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 04:19

#22

Scirio

Quantum entanglement has

Quantum entanglement has nothing to do with particles fixed in a certain position. I don't feel like having a quantum mechanics discussion, however QE simply describes the state, e.g rotary speed and direction etc. of two (or more) entangled particles, not the position. It couldn't have been used to hold together a gun.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 04:50

#23

Krakob

No one ever complains about Contri.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 07:23

#24

Hexzyle

It couldn't have been used to hold together a gun.

Not using current technology, anyway. You don't know what we could come up with in another hundred years.

Anyway, there's another bunch of explanations: matter with the same refraction ratio as the surrounding atmosphere, and magnetism.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 07:51

#25

Skayeth

@Krabob

Let me see, if you end that sentence with "...", let me finish that for you:

...But everyone complains about Krabob, but we don't complain because he is good at LD, we complain because he is Jakob Krabob.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 10:39

#26

Chromosver

Is there anything you WON'T post to get attention?
Didn't think so..

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 10:41

#27

Krakob

@Annilaton

Sheesh, what's up with the sudden hatred towards me?

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 11:31

#28

Dean-Zane

hmm who knows

@Krakob
hmm... who knows? But let's all be friends and direct hate at Tweety? XD (once again... no offense Tweety)

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 15:00

#29

Shamanalah

my 2 cents

Funny thing is you can report someone for reporting you...

Like you are complaining about someone complaining...

Yo dog, I heard you like Threads that complains, so I made this Thread that complains about people that complains who complains they made a complain Thread for no reason... you hear me dawg?

The more you post, the less I understand you Tweeter... I just don't get you... nor why you post such things? I have seen you for the past couple months but I've been here for quite some time now (almost a year) and I consider myself in the "new" forumers... so I don't understand how someone that has been around for so little try to force your opinions so hard...

If you come here and think you can save SK well we all felt that way and we all worked very hard on suggestions, spread sheet, bosses, depths, if you check the suggestion subsection you would find a lot of creative ideas (like Glacies on CIV) that OOO simply don't put any attention to... So after hours and hours of hard work beind ignored, you get fed up and stop and gets grumpy... after 1-2 years of that, the community is fed up and here we are... OOO changing the game so much and forgetting the 519 pages of suggestion that WE, the community, made toward the game

I love the game, I made a lot of suggestion, +1 a lot of great ideas that will never be put in the game and might have never been seen... they don't want to interfere in the suggestion subsection so we dunno what they see or don't see and I call them liar because of how awesome some ideas are and never gets implemented

(okay you put in a snow hazard that slows down, was suggested a lot of time and it was used once for a promotional optional mission...)

Mon, 02/03/2014 - 11:32

#30

Iamnoone

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 15:20

#31

Skayeth

That is the single most IMPORTANT, most EPIC, most AWESOME, most TRUE, most LEGENDARY reply in the history of Spiral Knights history.

@Krabob: All the sudden hate towards you? No, Krabob, I had that same hate for many, many months now. It is not entirely directed towards you, of course. Here is a simple question to let you figure out my "hate". Which guild do I hate the most and despise? I mean, I amd sure you are a great person, but my hate for this one guild is deep and severe. They have ruined me in the past and did so in the future as well as all my friends... They cursed me...

@Everyone: Lol everyone is bullying Tweety, but Imma just gonna stay on the neutral side. I'm just going to sit right here and eat the popcorn.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 15:26

#32

Sandwich-Potato

They cursed me...

I'm pretty sure that's an obscure reference to Krakob's "Rename the Big Angry Bomb to the F-Bomb" topic.

@Everyone: Lol everyone is bullying Tweety, but Imma just gonna stay on the neutral side. I'm just going to sit right here and eat the popcorn.

A bully is a person who uses strength or power to harm or intimidate someone who is weaker. Did you just imply that you think Twitter is weak?

But honestly, I'm pretty sure that there's no small amount of built-up "face-desk" among us forumers these past few months with the useless off-topic threads in the General Discussion.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 15:30

#33

Skayeth

/e looks and Potato and eats him

*munching* Well, when all of you guys are bunched up together, you guys are strong and make Tweety look weak. If it is just one of you guys, Tweety can take whoever it is on. *Chewing* There is a Lockdown term for this. *swallowing* The term is "gangbang". *licks his fingers*

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 15:52

#34

Xtweeterx

I only posted this in hopes of everyone's seeing what I'm seeing. Again, I'm not forcing viewpoints. I'm just looking for some feedback here.

Seems like some of not half of the feedback was down the toilet.

@Annilaton

I will never go into LD under any circumstance(s). Not even for 1 million crowns and CE. That place is plagued beyond recognition. I'll leave my PvP to TF2. TYVM.

@Zopyros-Il

I'm not trying to contribute. And if you haven't noticed already (and it seems like you haven't), I stopped making asinine threads since November. I'm leaving that to Annilaton. I'm just happy to be back as a regular old forummer.

My threads now will be for the sake of discussion. Such as this one.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 15:43

#35

Skayeth

Oh boy

The feedback is down the toilet? Boy, we need to hire a plumber.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 15:45

#36

Sandwich-Potato

The term isn't from just Lockdown.

And the fact is that all his arguments are kinda silly.

Waiting for stuff do die is boring? Really?

And if you can't use Detect Sarcasm with that 3.5 Homebrew Rules-Pedantry-Paladin Build...

SK will have a bad future.

It's the truth. All things end, and SK is no exception.

The old UI vs the new UI STILL!?!?!

People spam question marks and random caps and exclamation points STILL?!?!?!?!

There's so many sooo sooo many flaws with the new UI. The goofy glitchy portraits. The slapped-on vague team health bars. The lack of cursed icons. The lack of cursed shield bash icon. The shield bar itself.

Now, back from the top.

Item and damage balance

Name me one, ONE, thought out non-Lockdown based complaint that wasn't so justified it doesn't need the double-jeopardy rule. You want to smash your face through your desk, you say. We want to smash our faces through our walls when you make a useless thread, we reply.

Lack of new content

Now this, is actually something I agree with. Save for:

How about YOU try making your own MMO and keep coming up with clever ideas.

This strawman argument. If I had a nickel for everytime I got confused, hey why do I have some nickels? Why are more appearing?

On topic, the player's personal skill in creating a game are not relevant to their complaints.

Mon, 02/03/2014 - 11:33

#37

Iamnoone

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 16:35

#38

Seiran

@content complaints

They made a lot of content... for newer players.

I almost want to recommend older players to create a new character and playing through to Haven to see how different the game is now. I always get creeping hints when I see people in Lockdown or Elite-difficulty runs who berate themselves or others for "not being Vanguard". Vanguard has never meant anything to me, and that shows my game-age. I started a new character recently and was surprised at how much of a corridor there is now with missions controlling everything (you can't just transfer a swiftstrike buckler to a new character and be powered straight off the bat, for example). The pace, the priorities... they're really different. There's no mist-crafting, guys. O_o

For people who are sitting at endgame, content is more invisible:

-I was on my way to FSC when the Roarmulus Twins were added. It became another "alternative to Jelly runs" but felt longer and more tedious. Aside from collecting tokens to make my catalyzers, there wasn't enough satisfaction/reward for me to go back and do that run.
-I was/am F2P, so OCH didn't exist to me.
-I was already endgame when Shadow Lairs were added, so it was a nice thing when friends bought keys and wanted to bring me along, but for an F2P player, it's too expensive to factor into normal play.
-I was sitting pretty much at endgame when missions came around, and it was a cute little diversion, and a list of things to complete. Prestige missions? Whatever, they're just reduced sections of Arcade, aren't they?
-I was done with crafting when the forge came, and it didn't really mean anything to me - I actually didn't realize there was any problem with crafting until I saw people complaining about RFC on forums and set out to make a Nitronome for the first time, using up a bunch of my RFC. Sitting at endgame, you don't see many new things except costumes, and recently, a few weapon "reskins" (apocrea set included, the weapons don't -act- any differently from their base counterparts, so they're just different effects and graphics).
-I was sitting at endgame with thousands and thousands of minerals when pets came around, so it was just a matter of using up my hundreds of 5* mats and thousands of crystals. I don't have many memories of 'growth' with my pet. For me, it was just a matter of using items whenever the timer filled up its hunger meter.
-I was sitting at endgame when compounds were added, but PVE had already lost its luster since I had run to the core so many times.
-I was already endgame when danger missions were added. KoA was really long/tedious (I find fun in switch shooting, but KoA at max difficulty just means I have to shoot and kite for longer due to monster HP), Compound 42 was interesting, but I was already tired of them by the time the shock themed danger mission came about. They weren't as monetarily filling either, so if I wanted money, I'd go to FSC again.
-I only play FSC when I need to raise funds for something, otherwise I play Lockdown or Blast Network, where interactions are the most unpredictable. I play Arcade when I'm bored, but I've seen those stages already.
-There are still many items I'd like to craft, but the rate of RFC drops contradicts the amount of time I'm willing to spend to craft 5* items to max level.

^all these things are written from an end-game F2P point of view. I actually do find some entertainment in arcade, but most of my playtime goes to LD/BN, if not raising money via FSC.

The content that I think would satisfy people would be tier 3 content that acts as an equivalent or better (in terms of effort and time used, cr reward) to FSC. Also, if Arcade becomes something completely different from what it is now to become more 'sandbox'-like (because remember, we're in the middle of a huge redux/transformation for the Arcade system), that'll probably be great.

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While I didn't work on a live MMORPG, I did work with online games a bit, so I'm familiar with the developers' side of this whole thing, which is why I feel I have an idea of what they're doing. I know the terrors of promising a feature within some deadline, having other things come up and having to delay it. The pain of wanting to respond to players but being told "don't talk on the forums" due to not being able to reveal what you're really working on or to not misrepresent the rest of the company. The pain when the higherups tell you to twist the arms of people to spend real money or the game goes down, and having to go along with decisions that you yourself wouldn't agree with. As such, I have a mild curiosity to see how it all turns out.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 16:28

#39

Shamanalah

my 2 cents

@ Iamnoone. Sprites lvl 100 in under a week, still have bounds mats, cleared OCH first go when I was half passed out drunk on new year eve last year cause I gifted one to my friend and we cleared it w/o using 10 mist rez, Guild hall doesn't impact the game and while I enjoy it, didn't bring much to SK in any way (GH stuff was too expensive back then and now you get 7-9 stuff per box... go figure) weapons were reskin mostly (cleaver, scissor, bitter end, obsidian)

promos are reskin of costumes/accessories with 1 new idea on each promo (and even then, often recycled idea).

The 23 new guns coming are all reskin, no NEW guns, shadow autogun, valiance in elem/pierce/shadow, fire/freeze pulsar, pierce antigua...

There is nothing new in this game, just recycled content after recycled content... End-game player have nothing new to chew on but old toys...

oh hey vana... how's it going? Haven't seen you in a while...

vana: oh you know... getting demolish by knights for the past year, blocking you from accessing the core /huehuehue

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 16:42

#40

Seiran

@new guns

Who's to say they won't be changing the mechanics for the guns? The only things people know for sure are that the models resemble the current gun lines. That's art, not programming.

Even though I like using guns in SK (only due to the prevalence of advanced techniques), there's still a very good chance that things like Magnus line mechanics will be changing (it's been mentioned as a desire in the past), or that wide-changing mechanics could be made that make gunplay completely different.

Because I'm afraid of over-controlling game designers who can easily sacrifice things that players enjoy for the sake of matching their vision (many condolences to Metroid fans who liked atmosphere and sprawling worlds, Zelda fans who liked action instead of puzzles, and SK fans who liked sun shards), we can never be sure when 'big things' are coming.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 16:56

#41

Zopyros-Il

Bep Bop

Tweeter, if you're not trying to contribute, than what's the point of this thread?
Feedback? You're not looking for feedback, otherwise you would try to make counter points to the arguments being brought up here and in your other threads.
What it looks like you're doing is throwing your opinion out there and trying to gather others behind it.
It's fine to be discontent with all the complainers here and practically everywhere else, but try to understand their viewpoints as well. Quite a few of them do their best to back up their complaints with solid arguments, whether that be bringing up hard number comparisons, game design philosophy, or any number of other things.

Also, even if you've stopped your "asinine" threads, you've only progressed into making threads like these. Threads where you openly antagonize the "complainers" under your guise of "feedback."
We've got this very thread, where you state your position about your dislike of the complainers. You don't really bring much to the plate other than "change happens, get used to it because I got used to it."
We've got this thread from 4 days ago and this thread from 5 days ago. Nothing substantial in either and pretty asinine, as you put it.
Then there's this thread. 7 days ago. Not doing anything other than calling people out for being nostalgic. Even then people bring up the point that it's not 2011 SK that they like so much, it's that they don't like the direction that OOO is taking SK in 2013-2014. There's also the lack of regard to their established player base so they can pander to newer players, but I don't think you much care for that.
You barely acknowledge anything intelligible said in these threads, only offering them a passing sentence or two even when they provide arguments or things worth talking about that are on topic with your thread.
You seem set in your ways, so why ask for others to bring up their evidence of imbalances and complaints? You're just going to make a thread like this one, complaining about the people you asked to send you complaints.

If you're honestly looking for feedback, what type of feedback are you looking for starting threads like this?
Stuff like this?
- "Yea, I don't like all these complainers too"
- "SK is perfect and anyone else that doesn't think so can stuff it"
- "Stop yelling at OOO! They're doing a great job"
- "OMG I love 2013 SK"
What does that even accomplish?

You're sincerely not even trying to start a discussion here at all.
You just want to complain.
Go figure.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 17:09

#42

Iamnoone

@Shamanalah

Like I said. Just because you don't like the new content doesn't mean it wasn't added. And if you don't think the halls added to the game you aren't playing it right. That was probably the best thing they added in my opinion or maybe you need to find a better guild.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 17:19

#43

Sandwich-Potato

When I first saw the monster boxes in Guild Halls I was all "RUN FOR YOUR LIFE PEOPLE" until I realized they were non-hostile. Then my guild played tag, and even the guild masters joined in by trolling; "Hey Penn! I need to tell you something!" "What is i" "TAG YOU'RE IT"

Yep, guild halls are awesome.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 17:34

#44

Aplauses

@Sandwich
lol really misleading post.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 17:57

#45

Iamnoone

The halls are great for rp.

The halls are great for rp. The mist well makes a wonderful hot tub. Then there's all those guild parties. The guild runs to stay out of default or build statues. All those bars have had some pretty cool parties too. The guild halls were the best thing to happen to guilds and made the game so much better. There were so many days I played in the hall with guildies never doing any runs at all. After that hanging in haven like friend hanging out on a street corner became common place.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 18:14

#46

Krakob

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 18:28

#47

Iamnoone

I did not but now that you mention it. It's Shish Krakob time!
/shoves a wooden stake through Krakob's butt and lays him over a fire.
Anyone want a bite?

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 19:19

#48

Skayeth

@Krabob

No, Krabob, no. You seem to not understand. I am not the person making the genocide, Shish Krabob, I am not the person. For a long time now I have been FACING genocide, not encouraging it. Your guild...is making the genocide happen, Krabob. I never harmed your guild. Your guild destroyed everything. Man, I even have a detailed document that lists how many friends I lost to the Jempires....How many guildies...Guildies and friends I been with since beta... Your guild is the genocide, Krabob, not me.
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You know Bryantle? XD He read a line from the Mein Kampf and replaced every single word "Jew" with "Jempires". XDXDXD It was almost ridiculous!
Of course, I have to say, Hitler was a genius, like your leader Rubyeclipse, why, I bet even they had the same thoughts! A great speaker, yes, but with a dark and poisoned mind, all the schemes unwrapping in his head, also in Ruby's head. All the shadowy figures flickering back and forth, all the twilight shadows to fall on the future of Spiral Knights....

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Your guild is the genocide, Krabob, not me.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 21:52

#49

Fallconn

You show hatred towards me because I'm in a certain guild? I see! That's very mature of you. Judging people not by who they are but what flag they carry is always the right thing to do and could not possibly result in something like say, genocide. All the great leaders have done it, after all!
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No, Krabob, no. You seem to not understand. I am not the person making the genocide, Shish Krabob, I am not the person. For a long time now I have been FACING genocide, not encouraging it. Your guild...is making the genocide happen, Krabob. I never harmed your guild. Your guild destroyed everything. Man, I even have a detailed document that lists how many friends I lost to the Jempires....How many guildies...Guildies and friends I been with since beta... Your guild is the genocide, Krabob, not me.
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Your guild is the genocide, Krabob, not me.

Wow, that escalated quickly.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 23:45

#50

Fangel

Genocide... Yeah, no

The Jempire is a guild. They do not steal people, as players must sign up on their website to even be considered. It is all in the players.

I don't think genocide is the correct term here anyways. "Kidnapping" seems more appropriate in the context you're creating, Annilaton.
Oh, and you reminded me of this.

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