Could you NOT mention how the Justice System should work again? It sort of makes me uncomfortable, as Religion and State should be firmly separated in a modern society.

Dude, I'm not trying to start a fight. I respect your religion, but let's direct this topic BACK to the RP.

Wow, I finally get to see you for what you really are, holding onto some bronze age myth book, as a self-identified Athiest, I dispice everything you that you believed in. Didn't God/Jesus told you to forgive? Like how they have forgave you for your sin? Didn't he told you to that everyone is made equal? Where was all the good stuff in the bibble that you read? And like Malkalack said, seperation of state and religion.

Justice is never about who owes who. There is always other brands of justice, human have constitutional right, it is the foundation to the state law. Even a mass murderer like Affraiel have his own rights, he is crooked, so what, he have done great things in life, shouldn't those be accounted for? People don't change easily, but they can, and that is apart of being human, we can forgive others for their sins and the wrongs they done, the scars may not be erased, but it will always heal, maybe it is time we forget about our differences and live in this world treating others as out equal. Where every lives are worth cherished and protected. A true heaven, an outter heaven.

Affraiel never justified his killing like Gwen did, he knows that violence breeds more voilence, but at the end, he knows it has to be this way. Gwen cuts her own path and Affraiel followed his wrath. Maybe they were both the same, just doing what their heart told that was right. I never said killing is wrong, it is the justification of killing that is wrong.

And also, HOW DARE you say that religion told people what is right or wrong? Explain to me the salem Witchhunt, the crusade to jeuresalem five times, religion seems to be the major course of death in the past few thousand years. And not to mention discrimmination to women and non believers. To hell with religions!

~~~I quit, I am done with this RP.

Still waiting on that shadowy creature behind Sono that may or may not be Snarble.

On a side note, I've done the geniusness.

now I feel like Luke... utterly confuzzled

Where is he then?

-How is catholism not relevent to Christianity, both religions shares the same God, and if they are not related, then how come so many christains oppose Gay Marriage Law? Because it is only in catholic teaching did they actually specifically mention anti-Gay Marriage. 'Marriage is between a man and a woman' is highly ambigeuos, God never mentioned that Marriage is NOT for man and man/woman and woman, so how come Christains get all upset about it?

-I hate it when christians like you describe natural selection as killing, the killing in the past 3000 years are mostly due to wealth, conflicting societal norm and ideals. I have yet to see a battle waged between two races for the sake of natural selection, and if you blame Athiesm for the Holocaust, may I just remind you that holocaust =/= Natural selection, it is called Eugenic. And Eugenic is a made up concept by men to determine which race is superior/inferior, it is not the course of nature, climate change wipping out dinosaurs however is the act of nature. Survival of the fittest works in mysterious way, and sometimes, it is not always the strongest who survive, it is not up to human being to decide which one of us is the next step of human evolution, nature will work it self out.

I will put all debates aside for now, continuing arguing with you would be like trying convince with Ken ham, complete and utterly pointless. And also, by you logic, if Gwen shedded the blood of men, shouldn't she also die at the hands of men? Seems fitting to me.

-.-... well, I can't change what you believed in just like you can't change any of mine. We all have our side of the story, and there is nothing wrong with that, I am not you so I will never know what it is like to be christian, just like how you will never know how it feel like to an atheist. So that is the end of the debate, I wish tread no futher. You keep your believes and I keep mine.

As for purgetory, what is wrong with that? I was planning on making a spin off from return to cradle where, Affraiel, who died of old age when Gwen finally found him in the forest, is transported to hell. Sitting next to a camp fire with Vog, and they decided to team up and beat mount purgetory. Sounds fun.

Um, are you guys having a religious debate? Why are you having a religious debate???

Can we not do this here? This is ridonculous, considering DJ comes back and continued the discussion at random because Thin added that last bit after DJ quit. This is the Return to Cradle 2 Discussion Thread, not the religious discussion thread.

Wait wut lol

So yeah nice argument you got there, it would be a "shame" if anything were to happen to it.

Nevermind. Nevermind. When I said "bro" I meant, friend btw.

You should at least let him try. Let him write a short little story or something and see how good it is? If it's good enough by your standards, maybe he can RP for him.

Ohhh yes please! Ill start immediately!

It wasn't exactly making light of it, rather just pure jesting. I'll refrain from making anything lesser of your future debates.

I'm still waiting...

So are you going to edit Cicero out? I have it on *good authority* that my *pal*, Malkalack would be disappointed if his character met an ignoble end with a giant snake.

I have taken a break from the forum for about half a year now i guess... But since i am back why not join another RP ? you have to note though that I AM NOT CAPABLE OF SPEAKING WITH GOOD GRAMMAR. and i am also unable to get plot of stories easily.Please consider this before ( if my app actually get accepted ) accepting my app

Title: Knight
Name: Lake " Volt " shocktone
Appearance: Full Charged Quicksilver set with an Frosty Helm-Mounted display and a frosty canteen which contain a liquid valestone mixed with sugar and caramel , the frost base of the canteen keeps it cold even in the dessert.
Faction: Spiral
Race: Human/Knight
Sex: Male
Life Stage: Teenager
About your character: Lake are a really silent character. Even his freind doesn't know him well , he answer most question with a "yes" or a "no" . Altough , he is capable of being a joyful and dreamy boy when talking to beast. He prefer a gun and run tactics at battle , while using his bomb as an escape mechanism. He is really sharp and is really carefull at doing his action. He spend most of his time playing at the forest. At the heaven , he can be seen sleeping in the snipe garden ... with the snipes. He rarelly gets to a mission though , this is because he only teams up with peapole he trust.He has a pet Voltail called Spark and a Pet Electrolisk , Both really loves to drink Volt oil
Gear: Full Charged quicksilver set ( UV : Shock High , And piercing high ) , A polaris and a Supernova , a Voltedge , And a stagger storm
Special Abilities: Ability to speak wolvers language and an ability to read mind ( He comunicate with beast by reading their mind then bark or use body languages. )
Stats:
Muscular: 0
Sensory: 2
Analytical: 2
Endurance: 0

Llama just blew his cover. He's obviously Malkalack........'s father!

And I may not be a mod, Spiral, but...if you do join, do you think you could try to use good grammar...? It would be considerate to those of us reading your story......

Not trying to be offensive or anything.......