Also, following Nick's logic in the announcement, the Blast Network bombs are "not very bomb-like" (they do damage in straight lines, not a radius) therefore they should also be changed.

Hey i have a grea idea, why not remove all the dmg from the bombs and just make them inflict stats? Wont that be just wonderful?And i gotta ask you guys something, why would they upgrade RSS if we already like it like this?Maybe because some LD players don't?The same thing is going to happen like with Dark Retribution, it came out, LDstrikes didnt like it, complained and it got nerfed. And now they see that bombers have one bomb that deals descent dmg and they strike again.I mean first there will be a knockback and then the shards will explode?that will ensure that players or monsters wont be hit with more than one shard, thats the big "upgrade".Why not just make RSS a 5*? because that just wont do would it?

@Isitron That bomb got nerfed cuz it was so OP. It did too much damage while being too fast, but they did over-nerf it.

It's not bomb-like it's does an area of damage

I actually think the aiming-thing is what would make RSS actually cross over from being a bomb to being a gun. If you could aim it, it might as well be a gun that fires multiple projectiles, don't you think?

On that note, if the only problem with RSS is that it's "not bomb-like enough" then I have a suggestion to kill all the birds in one stone:
Make it a gun! It shoots crystals that deal piercing damage. I'm thinking something like a three-shot clip that can be fired slightly faster than Calahan while on the move like an Antigua. Gunners have been asking for such a gun forever. The charge attack is basically an RSS.

I heard the DR could solo the Jelly King in 15 seconds. That is majorly OP, it did need a nerf. But it was definitely over nerfed. I accidentally walked into an enemy DR thinking it was my team mates, barely got scratched.

It's the invinciblity frames that render it useless. Seriously, hbarely got scratched accidentally walking into an enemey DR for like 5 seconds. And I was not even wearing shadow def gear.

I don't mean that you could aim all the bullets in one direction. Just turn it completly.

Yeah I knew that, but I still don't think they should put it in. Part of the charm of RSS is that you have to get things at the perfect compass angles to hit them, making it a weapon that's a lot more about herding, and positioning (as a bomb should be) rather than just aim-and-shoot (which is how a gun is). Hitting someone specific with the shards even though they don't go exactly where you aim would take me at most three minutes to get used to.

Let's just concentrate on saving the bomb as it is for now.

I dont get the DR OP thing, by that logic Fang of vog should be nerfed since its charge attack allows you to kill JK under 30 seconds with proper gear. Not to mention the Blitz shredding Vanaduke into pieces day and night. I guess a 5 star bomb shouldn't be able to show devastating power similar to a sword.

Its has all the risks all bombs have, no standard attack. Only charge, I have all weapons I mentioned so I'm fully aware of their drawbacks. DR does shadow damage so it wiping JK, which isnt even impressive after they nerfed him, isn't a good reason to call it overpowered compared to all the weapons.

By far bombers are the least common now, because of the small amount of viable bombes to choose from that aren't mainly based on support style bombs like shivermist. We have well known powerful weapons and swords/guns with charges to deal with crowds of enemies why cant I get a bomb that does super high dps on a single target?

Petition signed.

Bumping a dead thread? Watch it die again.

Thinking OOO will care about someone's bump to a dead thread won't get you anywhere.

With blood, if required. This new bomb is a horrible joke, it doesn't work as "intended" neither. Slow as icy hell, horrible range, horrible explosion bursts, horrible delays, horrible scenario detection, horrible everything. It even has a sadface in the icon.

*Signs with pure rage*

/me doesn't sign either
It was pretty OP, and the new bombs are quite nice. Well, at least I like them
If you don't like them, rage, quit, do whatever.Just cope with it.
Life moves on.Move with it.

I can't support this thread. The new shard bombs , IMO, are actually pretty cool and I can see them working much better once balancing issues are adressed, like making RSS actually useful by changing it to elemental and buffing damage. Truly I used that thing more on Constructs and Undead more than fiends.

@Warriorrouge
Brandish is OP.

Just one quick question: any one has a way to contact Nick's boss? We need to escalate this to higher up to be useful.

I'll support this petition.

The new shard bombs are practical death traps. Long detonation time, unpredictable knockbacks, lower damage than similar level dps bombs, disappearing shards, a joke in LD...

It looks pretty, but its just that. Like Juances said, coolness doesn't kill properly.

Here is the battle plan:

1. Someone find who is Nick's Boss, and find a way to contact him;

2. Post all your arguments (be as concise as possible please) against the bomb patch. I'll consolidate them into a list;

3. I'll call OOO to verify the contact information of Nick's Boss;

4. I'll type up a correspondence letter to Nick's Boss and I'll mail it to him.

5. ???

6. PROFIT!

And yea, forget about petition. Since when that worked.

The new bombs are horrible. I used it for 1 floor of FSC just to see how it works and refuse to use it anymore. This petition obviously didn't work but at the same time anyone that claims the old RSS was overpowered was probably some LD scrub that was too dumb to side step a bomb that fires in the same 8 directions each time.

Ok guys, keep the comments going. As I said before I'll consolidate a list of comments, write it in a letter and send it to Three Rings. Again, forget about petition, it never worked before. Save your breath and focus on the comments.

This is the address I'll be sending the correspondence letter to:

612 Howard St # 500
San Francisco, CA 94105, United States

I'll be addressing the letter to this guy:

Mr. Daniel James

This is the number I'll be calling to verify the name and address in which the letter will be sending to:

(415) 615-9596

EDIT: THIS IS A RANT OF BIASED AND PERSONAL OPINION. DO NOT READ IF YOU SO CHOOSE...IF YOU DO, PLEASE READ THE ENTIRE POST. THANK YOU.

I hate to say it, but I did not like the old Shard Bombs at all. As a recon, they literally made Lockdown impossible and gave bombers an advantage that focused the game into their favor.

OOO must have believed that this change was exceptional - if we believe that the change was wrong/unnecessary, we need to address it. However, raging about it and being dissatisfied with the game in its entirety won't get us anywhere. Personally, I tried the bombs out on the testing server and enjoyed them. They require a different approach than most other bombs, but that makes them unique and provides a whole new aspect to the bombing system.

Orangeo said this: "Gunners have pulsar, and that SHOOTS BOMBS." Swords have knockback, pulsars have knockback, and bombs have knockback...it all evens out. Mist Bombs create status, Cryotechs inflict status, and Brandishes create status...it evens out. I can concide that it might be nice to have a bomb that can shoot range, but the RSS was way too overpowered and did way too much damage.

Many will disagree with me, and rage that OOO should change things back. They'd also rage that OOO should bring the game back to before the missions system, before the CE market rise...sometimes we need to learn to accept change, and live with it. Not everything in life is going to be exactly the way we want it, and sometimes one needs to learn when to accept what is given to them.

*Also, I apologize if I sound ranty - I don't understand why people are so passionate about these bombs, especially when they are so overpowered and overly usable. I usually don't post with so much...emotion, perhaps? Or even a slight snappiness?...I guess I am just sick and tired of listening to whining about these types of changes in-game. We just have to trust that the developers know what they are working towards with Spiral Knights.