Auto Target in PVP is Same As Aimbot in FPS games.

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Icegill's picture
Icegill
@Feller

You talk about respect. Yet you show none of it to anyone. Not even the GM's.

You need help, Feller.

Traevelliath's picture
Traevelliath

I don't notice AT that much in LD unless I'm specifically looking for it...

I think AT may be more of an issue for Strikers who rely on speed, so AT helps someone get a steadier aim on them, but as a Recon I am not really affected by it. I don't notice it, and it's not an issue unless someone shouts it out as an issue.

Also, I would like to point out that nothing stops you from turning on Auto-target yourself. If it's like an aimbot, then why not use it yourself? It's like complaining that because the screen is tilted slightly, people approaching from the south can see you before you can see them. Yes, it's a bit unfair, but at the same time it's a mechanic of the game that can be used or ignored by EVERY player.

For all the people lamenting AT, I challenge you all to play, not one, but several games with AT on. If you are suddenly getting twice the damage as normal, and massacring all that you touch, then maybe I'll agree with you in that AT should be tweaked or removed. If nothing changes, then please just forget this argument existed and never speak of AT ever again. If you get worse, then refer to AT as a handicap, not an OP aimbot.

Lskyx's picture
Lskyx
He keeps talking LOL

1) This thread is nothing to do with BN xD Wtf are you doing, bro.
2) Im simply saying LD would be better without AT because its self aiming rather than just random swings
3) "Makes things more even and removes all bickering." Funny talk for a person with so much "brains" x) Thats not a complaint about AT. Thats just saying how things would be if they removed it.
4) Kobe is an NBA player.

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Yea... your just lost, mate :/ I hope your threw talking

Shidara's picture
Shidara
@Lskyx

Good job on not only trying to avoid the question by changing the subject, but also insisting that Lockdown should only be enjoyable for players with high-end computers, high-end gear, high-end skill, and a house in the country holding/adjacent to the server location. God forbid anyone playing Lockdown to have fun, hm?

Guess I'll just tell my non-expert friends to stay away from Lockdown, because this place is about to become Pros-only territory.

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Seriously, you want your serious games with highly skilled players? Guild Lockdown is your answer.

Theirillusion's picture
Theirillusion
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@ #105

Why would i wanna use AT? I wouldnt see any diffrence in damage.

If you get 2x Damage when using AT, then im sorry to inform you that you might really need AT to stand the 8 minutes.

Little-Juances's picture
Little-Juances

derp
He meant that if you have poor aiming and miss a lot, AT would let you score more hits, thus you'll deal more damage in the end.

Thimol's picture
Thimol
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Yea... your just lost, mate :/ I hope your threw talking

Are you drinking mercury or something?

I wish I could will the topic into oblivion as well as OP and Feller.

Lskyx's picture
Lskyx
Mhm, Shidera

You are correct about the game being harder and less enjoyable for people with bad connections and computers that are not as good.

This is why I proposed in post 64 that there be a better menu option for GvG Lockdown.

"I need to find Thrillhaus's thread about changing match options for gvg. (It had a choose map option/4v4 or 5v5 option/And many other great features on menu) Im thinking this way we can have no-AT matches, and still available AT matches. {Please link if you find this thread}"

Hoping one of the options can be no-AT. That way people can have there AT matches in randoms, and the game can have good fights in GvG. ^^

(everyone is happy)

Psychodestroyer's picture
Psychodestroyer

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This thread...

Is filled...

With idiots.

I could totally point names and call fingers, but I really can't be bothered. Not today.

"You are taking what he said about aimbots WAY to literal, bro."

In case you haven't noticed, he's specifically calling it an Aimbot. Not 'it's like an aimbot'; He's saying it is an Aimbot.

Also, Feller, you have no right to plead for respect. You possess it least of all.

"CoD doesn't have aimbot."

That's why it's called hacking...?

"How can you dodge a gf swing autoaimed??"

How can you dodge a GF swing in range? Ohthatsright, you have to be IN RANGE to be hit. Why are you complaining about being hit while in range?

"You have to be dumb or AT user to defend the feature."

I don't use AT, and there's no way on Cradle you're smart-er than me, to say less about the level of my own intelligence, because calling myself smart sounds scumbag.

Somehow, that sounds almost as bad. But w/e, people know what I mean.

/headdesks Seriously, Baka everywhere.

Theirillusion's picture
Theirillusion
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@ Little-Juances

Oh xD I see what you mean. but i did not mean you get twice as much damage per hit. Poorly written post by me there.

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Iron-Volvametal

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Lskyx's picture
Lskyx
D:

Someone... Please tell me where that that Thrillhaus thread is. Its the best suggestion on LD that iv seen in Spiral Knights and the search function on this site sucks balls xD

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Thimol
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You are an intelligent and lovable person. Please be my friend.

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Luguiru's picture
Luguiru

You mean this?

First of the two Lockdown links I got.

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Hawxindanite's picture
Hawxindanite
I love staring at the pure rage presented in here

Remember kids! This is a game! Not real life! It is not worth arguing here, unless you want to be like this person

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Dendios
Guess Thimol and Iron took

Guess Thimol and Iron took the discussion offtopic a bit xD

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Psychodestroyer

"Remember kids! This is a game! Not real life!"

You'd be surprised in how many ways it is possible to link 'Real life' and 'just a game' in terms of people's attitudes, me only ever being able to tap into a few at a time.

I'd rather that logic not be used, because for the most part, I find it redundant. However, that is only my opinion. Whether or not people share the same idea is a different matter entirely.

Hawxindanite's picture
Hawxindanite
@Psy. Still though

I understand your point but then again we shouldn't really argue and be arrogant on the Internet.

Edit: Oh LOL I thought I double posted then I realized the first person was you XD

Lskyx's picture
Lskyx
I am Sorry

No idea what came over me... arguing like that and not saying nice things about people.

A discussion over AT (these threads) need to be trashed indeed.

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But yea... id like to go back to my original post concerning Lockdown Lobby's. Thank you so much Luguiru for finding Thrillhaus thread. It solves everyone's problems and has ONLY received positive feedback.. Problem is, no one goes to any other part of the forums than "General Discussion" anymore..

http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/60540

We should stop the lockdown AT fights and implement something that would keep everyone happy. It has come to my attention that not all players can play without AT (Not everyone uses mouse/Has a decent computer or connection)

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Psychodestroyer

"I understand your point but then again we shouldn't really argue and be arrogant on the Internet."

...Odd. I try to argue against arrogance; that's the whole point of me arguing. I state a point, opposing person can't take the hit because they feel they can't be wrong=INTERNET FIGHT!!

Arguing is inevitable. People are designed to think differently from each other, hence have different opinions. But if people are going to be manure-class buckets about it, it's not going to sit well with me.

Online or otherwise.

"Edit: Oh LOL I thought I double posted then I realized the first person was you XD"

Yeah, that gets me a little sometimes. Scrolling through a thread, thought I posted "Owait no it's that other guy with my Avatar."

Dat-Dere-Celltech
Use AA all day son, makes my

Use AA all day son, makes my day russling AA whiner's jimmies. Umad? and also OP is a

Iron-Volvametal's picture
Iron-Volvametal

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Our-Little-Ajo
Thrillaus suggestion

I don't mind if ppl still wanna use AT, but we should have an option for no AT players.

Thrillaus idea fits perfect to mantain both kind of players happy.

Custom lobby is what LD needs to be competitive.

Orangeo's picture
Orangeo
AT isn't that annoying. It

AT isn't that annoying. It can slightly compensate for lack of skill, but it doesn't add on to the threat of already good players.

UVs that provide an offense bonus need to be nerfed.

Heart trinkets should just disappear. Draining real money for double health, shame.

Also, what's with this "average person has UV and hearts" crap? That's completely incorrect, generally people go in no-trinkets and only have random UV's they got from crafting by chance.

"Go play any FPS on consoles, they have aim assist."
Console FPS. PFFFT, men play quake III on their PC. "TWO HITS, IMPRESSIVE."