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The Canozo's Suggestions thread!

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Fri, 07/20/2012 - 22:47
Canozo's picture
Canozo

HAI GUISE! Whalecome to the Canozo's suggestions thread, just some stuff I think about when im bored (or when I die on ROTMG).

Ranked lockdown and Casual Lockdown.

Add Ranked and Casual lockdown, what would be ranked and casual? Well, I think that a big part of the SK community complain about the lots of people that have Very high and max UVs on their gear, so for public lockdown matches, I think that there should be Ranked Lockdown (Where UVs make effect) and Casual Lockdown (UVs wont make any effect), Each mode will have its own leaderboards.

How will this affect lockdown?

I think that there will be more people playing lockdown, a lot of the people I play with end up quitting or raging on me because of my UVs, and I give them all the reasons to do it, I would get annoyed too if I had no UVs and I was fighting a lot of people with ASI VH UVs. Lockdown has both P2P and F2P players, but I think that with this F2P T3 players would play Casual Lockdown a lot more than now, and lets be honest, there are a lot of people with ASI uvs (Med or VH, almost the same thing) that would go for Ranked Lockdown.

Better Lockdown scoring.

The Current scoreboards system and leaderboards system nowdays is more of like "Hey if you play like 9000 matches on lockdown you will get to the #1 spot of the leaderboards, dont mind losing or winning."

I think that leaderboards should be way, WAY more challenging to achieve, there should be a bonus of like 50% more points for winning a match, or some other things that make players effort in order to get to the top leaderboards.

Also, for the scoring, when the match ends, it should show more than just Caps/Defs/Dmg, It should also show kills and assists, and then with all those make an overall score of the player, for example:
Dmg points = "X" Points each.
Caps = "X" Points each.
Defs = "X" Points each.
blablablaablabla

EDIT: I also was thinking on, instead of using rank points, using a Win/Lose ratio, players with the best W/L ratio get to be on the top spots.

Remove CE revs from Guild lockdown.

Why? I think that Guild Lockdown should be more competitive, actual guild lockdown could have their players reviving everytime and leading them to a win. CE revs on public lockdown matches is ok, they are public matches, but CE revs on Guild lockdown doesnt involve teamwork, fight for your life, stick to your teammates and not dying, leaderboards should be taken seriously, not a "revive a lot to get #1 spot on guild leaderboards".

Super Brawl Crown.

Before the leaderboards get reset, the #1 spot on the leaderboards gets one of this for 1 week. Simple as that (doesnt count for guild lockdown)
Suggested by Little-Juances "Give #1 a big gold crown, but everyone else up to #10 a small silver one (a retexture is enough). Then up to #30 a bronze one.", That could work too.

More weapons.

Even im getting tired of the loads of Skolver/Toothpicks players, and im also getting tired of using a toothpick/gran faust. There should be more weapons that players can use, that actually fit in any class, for example Rocket hammer in my opinion is an exellent weapon, but strikers swordsmans dont get any other choice other than Rocket hammer/Flourish/Sealed sword lines, Why? Using a suduruska (or w/e its typed out) or a brandish, or a vile striker wouldnt help at all on a striker, and other than this, there are no more options left. There should be more swords, guns and bombs that add new dynamics and different gamestyles (and im pretty sure that OOO is working on a lot of stuff right now), Rocket hammer is a good example, totally different from the other swords.

More money sources.

I got tired of doing the same thing everyday. Prestige, then Vanaduke, then lockdown till I get tired. There should be more money sources, other than vanaduke that its pretty much the only good one, and the only one that its farmable even with using CE instead of ME (Mist Energy).

1v1 Lockdown?

I want it >.>

More bribe prices.

Like rommil said (I think?) there should be more bribe prices, such as recipes, more bombheads maybe or some new kind of costume armors.

An option to hide the HUD.

(Self explained on title)

King Krogmo's Coliseum

When I first read about King Krogmo's Coliseum, I thought about some Coliseum, pokemon style, where you could make partys and stuff, but it just resulted on a piece of square and some buttons. I think that there should be an actual King Krogmo's Coliseum somewere in haven, where you could go with your friends and build up a GvG match, what I got in mind is kind of hard to explain, (might do some sexy drawings later using Microsoft Photopaint)

More Lockdown Gamemodes

Mostly what ive been thinking about: Capture the flag and King of the Hill.
(Will update mechanics later)

Bullets lag on gunners.

Maybe if you have seen my videos or if you are a gunner you know what im talking about. Its very hard to be a gunner, not because of the aiming, because of the server lag. For me its the biggest obstacle on being a gunner. I would be very, very very happy if this could get fixed.

Ill be adding more stuff as I think on more stuff, you guys could suggest things to my suggestions so we could suggest the devs to take our suggestions in count.

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 23:30
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Luguiru's picture
Luguiru
Dem requests

Casual players ought to not care about leading scores, though I can see where having more UVs locks the wealthier players in the leading ranks. However, this is not about leading scores; this is about having people with all the UVs in the world going against a casual player who may be new to whatever tier they are entering and/or new to the game. Why are they playing Lockdown if they are new to the game? People like to fight other people. The concept itself on paper is fine, but in practice the only way it would work is if the system can identify who classifies as "casual" and "ranked". Does it check if you have a certain amount of UVs and force you to play in one group?

If I were the judge, jury, and executioner I would remove leader boards entirely. I may never play Lockdown but having a rank system offers nothing other than inflated egos. Why should you care if your score is high? To prove you did something, but with the current system as you stated all people have to do is accumulate points with over nine thousand games and they get on the board. Why have a board to begin with?

This comes back to the premium versus non-premium friction; where do we draw the line at "pay to win"? Should energy revivals be restricted, and if so where? In Krogmo minigames if you die all you have to do is wait for a timer to clock out, but in the Clockworks if no one else is with you when you go down all waiting gets you is kicked out. The energy revival in Krogmo minigames is supposed to be an energy sink, not that our current market needs that. This is just another example of Three Rings trying to squeeze money out of people before they quit for another game or decide to go monetarily sober.

Yes, that same person who plays derpbillion rounds whether they win or lose any of them deserves a crown costume. I am being completely sarcastic.

Yes, more weapons. What about them?
"There should be more swords, guns and bombs that add new dynamics and different gamestyles"
Are you suggesting something or just asking for new stuff?

Rather than overfeed the economy with even more crowns, we need new content to start flushing our resources down the drain. People who want money will swarm to whatever does that job best. Changing payouts will only switch the current Vanaduke spamming trend to whatever the next best thing is.

One on one duels are an old topic and have been denied because knights do enough damage to die in less than three hits easily. Use the search function.

Rommil has also suggested things in the past which have grated balls. Do we want even more energy sinks through bribing, causing another economic indigestion?

Apparently people will forget how to restore it again, though that is weak reasoning. The various little buttons could be shrunken further, but completely taking them off the screen by a command seems unnecessary. What are you going to do, take memorable screenshots with your friends/family/stalkers/flying tigers?

This has also been repeated multiple times. Is pushing a button while in Haven too difficult a task? Do you want the developers to drop what they are currently doing to make a building which serves no porpoise?

Yes, more minigames. Do you have anything origi-
"Capture the flag and King of the Hill"
Here is capture the flag with a defending and attacking team, here is a war of various Clockworks enemies at the control of one antagonist used against the other knights, here is a similar minigame to that; there are several others as well.

You are asking for the lag to be fixed. Where have you been the past year?

Sat, 07/21/2012 - 00:02
#2
Boodo's picture
Boodo
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Canozo, where da hell did you think of this? Did you make it up in your mind cause it's acctually preetty cool. But really where did you think of this.

Sat, 07/21/2012 - 06:04
#3
Little-Juances's picture
Little-Juances
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Give #1 a big gold crown, but everyone else up to #10 a small silver one (a retexture is enough). Then up to #30 a bronze one.

Sat, 07/21/2012 - 09:35
#4
Canozo's picture
Canozo
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@Luguiru

"Does it check if you have a certain amount of UVs and force you to play in one group?"

No, you totally get to choose in wich one you want to play, and choosing this is not permanent.

"What are you going to do, take memorable screenshots with your friends/family/stalkers/flying tigers?"

For me, it would be very useful for my videomaking and I know im not the only videomaking user in the whole SK community, and I dont think that by adding this the community would RAGE AND QUIT THE GAME AND MAKE COMPLAINT POST SUSGYU69GIUGHO[SEOPS.

"You are asking for the lag to be fixed. Where have you been the past year?"

I know a bagillion of people lag on this game and complain about the 3/4 bars skolvers toothpicks, but gunning is different. Server lag makes gunning 75% harder since you have to guess where the enemy will be and then pray that your shots hit them, for each shot.

Im not a game designer or know anything about it, but if I would be one I would start working on fixing it right away.

Sat, 07/21/2012 - 12:48
#5
Addisond's picture
Addisond
Agreed on most stuff

Ranked and causal LD -

I would much prefer to simply be able to create metagames, each with their own leaderboards. UVs aren't my main issue with LD, I would much prefer to be able to ban trollaris and AA from my games, but that's not available (I know people (including you) use these, and I'm perfectly fine with you doing so, but I like playing without them more). The problem here is that there aren't really enough players to guarentee that we could get more than one or two real metagames going.

Better lockdown scoring -

Some discussion on this can be found here: http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/56915
Basically, either win percentages or rank points are the best way to go.

Super brawl crown -

Yesh, but only if they fix how scoring works. Runner-up prizes sound nice too :)

More money sources -

The recent rebalance was tight, now running regular clockworks makes you money, though it's a slight margin compared to the 200% of FSC. The difficulty in FSC should probably be buffed a bit if possible, it's current crown output is kinda out of line with everything else and it's really not that much harder than regular clockworks.

OCH - more crowns from it, please? http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/57050#comment-405208

Danger missions make good money, too. A bit slow, though, which is unfortunate. I'd like to see the first level tightened up a bit if possible.

1v1 LD -

Actually, it'd be nice if I could set up my own scenarios within the lockdown engine (any map, any number of players), but at the very least we need 1v1.

More weapons -

Sadly, the requirements of PvE and PvP are very different. I don't think we're bringing brandishes into competitive play.

Bribe prizes -

I don't really care, but I don't have a problem with this.

Hide HUD -

God yes. I aim over the heart display and time counter so much in LD, and it makes my aim freeze :c

More modes -

Should have happened a million years ago.

Lag on gunners -

If we lag compensate everything, it makes it nearly impossible to react to the laggiest players. While australians would be very happy, it would be kinda messed up if I couldn't dodge any attacks. If we were to just lag compensate bullets, it would be harder or impossible to dodge them, too (and it's supposed to be possible. I don't really have any fixes to this.

Sat, 07/21/2012 - 21:09
#6
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Thunderbog
GAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!

I IMPLORE YE TO LOOK AT MY SUGGESTIONS

I MUST REVIVE THE THREAD I SPOKE ABOVE AND BRING FORTH 1 V 1 GAMEMODES!

TAKE THAT!

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