I'd personally love more poetry, it's like a view of the knights' culture and traditions. It's kinda like there's a bunch of lore about elves or humans from many sources, but when it comes to the Spiral Knights, we don't have much of a culture do we? that's exactly why I personally would like more songs. Maybe once we get out of the cage and back to the camp, every sunset there will be a song sang at the campfire? Just a suggestion.
Clockwork Heroes RP [discussion][APPS CLOSED]
Fri, 12/25/2015 - 06:24
#452
@Thinslayer
Fri, 12/25/2015 - 12:18
#453
:O
I love me some poetry. I can write that. :D
Sat, 12/26/2015 - 22:57
#454
Yasss
Thin has some of the best poetry. I think he has quite the affinity for it ;3
@Dark, fair point and god idea! I should do that.
Sun, 12/27/2015 - 08:46
#455
You guys might like this one.
This poem was destined for Tales from the Morai Wars.
Behold the sweet rose of Isora
How her beauty is pass-ed away
The scent of her fragrance is rotten
Her petals shall fall by the way
The roots shall cry for the branches
The branches shall wither in rain
Yet whole are the seeds of Isora
In time, sweet rose, shall you live again.
Mon, 12/28/2015 - 07:50
#456
Awesome Poem @Thinslayer
This is really good! It tells us a little about Isora while also emphasizing how the Spiral Knights are planning to one day return home and make it bloom once more. We really need more of these... If only there was a way to return to the Rescue Camp, and this time no crazy black sky nonsense. Something like there is a target of mainly surviving but also defeating the gremlin outpost by the rescue camp (or something like that), but it isn't mandatory, and you can always stay by the campfire and sing songs, or talk to other knights. It'd also make people joining a lot easier.
Mon, 12/28/2015 - 08:58
#457
Poetic Meaning
This time around, one doesn't have to speculate about the meaning of the poem - the author can offer that!
It was partly inspired by the Korean drama "Tree with Deep Roots." The plot of the drama is irrelevant; the part that inspired it is the concept of a nation being like a tree. The King is the flower at the top, and the people are the roots. The King is under the impression that there is no kingdom without him, but the rebels think of him as the flower; the roots support the flower, not vice versa. A tree with deep roots has strong people who are not easily moved.
So in the poem, the things that made Isora beautiful, like its glimmering ivory towers, knights in shining armor, etc. are just facades for the underlying corruption, the "rotten scent" of her fragrance. And being rotten, they shall "fall by the way" when conflict and war cut them down. The "roots," the people, cry for the "branches" of government. Rain usually gives life to a plant, but for Isora, it destroyed the plant, evidenced by the withering branches. The "rain" is energy, Tearium in this case. Tearium was the life of Isora, but it was the lust for energy and the Tearium bomb that corrupted and destroyed it.
But all is not lost. There are still knights and colonists living. The seeds of Isora, the people who gave birth to it, are still out there somewhere. As long as there are Isorans somewhere in the galaxy, and if energy can be found to "water" them, Isora shall live again.
Wed, 12/30/2015 - 23:43
#458
Heyo.
I should have something more for us soon. I kinda want to get this sequence over with. Anybody else feel the same way?
Thu, 12/31/2015 - 00:49
#459
Yepperino
We should get this fight over and done with soon. Kinda dragging it along time-wise.
Thu, 12/31/2015 - 02:09
#460
Zed
Qz.Ib
Thu, 12/31/2015 - 05:45
#461
:/
I made this Parody of Thin's poem, it is crap, I know but I am bored.
Behold the murderous youth
How his innocence passed away
The scent of blood in the air
As torn limbs were thrown away
The mother shall cry for the lost sons
The sons shall perish in war
Yet whole was the hope of mother
In time, better men, shall take their place.
Thu, 01/07/2016 - 16:29
#462
Battle end
It occurred to me that the quickest way to end the fight is to have Grael (or some electronics whiz) hack the control panel and make the platform halt by the exit. It would otherwise move on. The tortodrone won't fit onto the elevator.
Fri, 01/08/2016 - 17:27
#463
Good OOC information, now to get that IC...
Thu, 01/14/2016 - 23:02
#464
I gave you a week @Thinslayer :P
I gave you a week to do something, you didn't so now.... I'm taking over!!! :D but seriously, come back please.
Also my plan worked, we managed to take down the monster without hacking help.
Fri, 01/15/2016 - 02:26
#465
@Kurelion
Usually by bashing the control panel, using cryogenic grenades (shivermist buster equivalent) on the floor entrance, or jamming a solid metal bar into the floor panel would have almost certainly stopped the platform. But I don't know why people would use hacking, probably the most convoluted, dues ex machina method of stopping a simple piece of machinery when brute force would have done the job.
Ps. don't try to take over when Thinslayer didn't say so, it would piss him off more than my atheist tirade.
Fri, 01/15/2016 - 19:01
#466
No worries.
Thanks, Kurelion. Seriously. ;)
I know I've royally screwed up when I don't even want to *look* at the SK forums. The combat was going on too long, I had no idea what we would do afterwards, and all my plot ideas were shot to the abyss. I screwed up. I know it's gotta be rough waiting for that next post, and I personally get more and more depressed every time I reload and see nothing new, so I gotta apologize to you all for doing that to you.
I know I can be really picky about my story sometimes, but when the RP is stagnating, please feel free to take over or something. Chances are, if I'm not replying for days on end, I have no idea what I'm doing. xD
Here's some of the stuff I was toying with for this RP.
*You guys would escape, reach Haven, chat it up for a while, then Seerus would come and blow everything up with mecha Roarmulus Twins. If it sounds stupid to you, it sounded stupid to me too.
*The knights take to the skies and battle the enemy in the air. I really don't know how I'd write aerial combat or atmospheric settings, and I haven't the faintest idea how to tie it in to the plot. It just sounded cool at the time.
The original plot, the one that inspired the title of the RP, involved having each player character get a chance to do something heroic as fitting the character. The main problem with that is it's simply not feasible to give everyone the spotlight. I'd attempted to resolve the problem by making Cherub the lead, but he's not familiar enough with the Clockworks for it to happen the way I want. He's taken a back seat. And he's supposed to be the _______ in the end! I need to develop him, and that's not happening the way the story is going.
Anyway, Kurelion's solution works. I'd meant for Grael to hack into the control panel and stop the platform at the last minute, but...well, my absenteeism made that a little difficult. :3
@Midnight-Dj: I'm not P.O.'d by disagreements per se. It's pride that boils my blood. Atheists and agnostics are often fun to debate with, but when they start strutting around pretending like they're geniuses and I'm just a lowly student at their feet, that's when I have to watch my temper. My problem with you has never been your atheism; it was always your pride.
Fri, 01/15/2016 - 19:44
#467
Ergh.
This is what kills an RP for me.
I stop posting one day, two days... a week... four weeks...
Then when I get to the RP, the character hasn't contributed anything because I didn't write anything.
After that happens, once... twice... I begin to lose faith in myself, and the character dissapears altogether.
I'm trying not to do that here, but... It's just awkward.
I mean, really.
Skyla threw some rockets skyward, and jumped onto the misc. object above the platform.
That's it.
On the other hand, everyone else put in far more content than I did, which, in my opinion... kinda makes Skyla look like a bad partner, and thus me a bad roleplayer.
Usually, I just give up and leave.
This is what kills an RP for me.
Edit: Hopefully, we can get somewhere with this story.
I've heard a very famous phrase by a fairly good author. "If I don't know what will happen next, neither do the readers."
Even if you've got some kinda patched together ideas, convoluted or not (Things like that happen to long series, and the fans STILL watch.)
I'd like to request a combination of themes that blend into the story, however. This can be achieved with the characters, player or otherwise.
(Ex; Romance, Horror, Survival?, Comedy, oh shit that's genocide quick back away from the we've gone too far zone)
Fri, 01/15/2016 - 20:24
#468
@Liminori
You know, you may have hit the nail on the head. I feel the exact same way if the RP progresses without me. In fact, that's the precise reason I haven't posted to A New Kind of Roleplaying Game in the Arcade forum.
I personally like Skyla. She's a really cool character, definitely one of the better ones you've made, and I still think that now. I can't speak for the other players, but I'd be tickled pink if Skyla participated more often. I particularly want to see her use her intel-gathering abilities; that's one of the traits that makes her cool.
Fri, 01/15/2016 - 21:02
#469
IMO (remember that because this is just a drop)
The Clockworks are moving, if PC's are paying attention they could have seen/felt it slightly during the battle.
Now with that it mind its going to be in everyone's best interest to GET THEIR BACKSIDES TO HAVEN. Why? Because they need time to heal, get geared back up, learning about higher commands plans, Alpha squads reports, and perhaps get some well deserved rest. This might prove to be a good moment to take a moment and do some personal PC dev. both on Player's and Thin's side. Perhaps some NPC's remember the PC's for what they did, fear them for what they did, have some respect, ETC.
Don't just throw another battle into this, in fact smart idea's are going to win here and the fact this little rag tag group was able to do what they did was a good thing, it means they A) were able to work together then leadership fell apart, B) Don't question one another when it comes to team unity, C) Gave a bonding experience to PC's.
Sat, 01/16/2016 - 06:08
#470
@Limi
I think what you need to become is a force multiplier for your team. A support character who can stand on the sideline but still be very important to the story.
The best example I can think of is Saboteur, AKA Pythonne Selensky. He is a demolitionist, so he is never great at dealing head on damage, but it is what he gives to the rest of the team that makes him cool. IMO, best RP character I made.
Saboteur provides a wide variety of buffs to the team, so he doesn't have to be active to contribute:
-He provide the team with small portable anti personal detectors, so he doesn't have to sweep mines and expose himself.
-He provide the team with high strength explosives, so those people who likes to fight in the front can get an extra kick.
-He can stay behind to lay mines/defuse bombs/procure more explosives while the team move on to more important stuff.
-If the team become overwhelmed, he can call upon the dark obsidian shard implanted in his heart to trigger a transformation into an obsidian berserker, become a temporary front line fighter. And probably sleep through the rest of the battle after the biggest enemy is slain.
In summary, Saboteur himself is not a character to write home about, but he makes what ever team he is a part of better.
So say, after this battle, Skyla can go seek help from Dark's PC and produce some kind of telemetry radar. This radar allows Dark's PC to feed telemetry data into Skyla's weapon through hacking and analyzing the structural weakness of an enemy, with these data, Skyla can fire her rocket's at a higher accuracy and a higher efficiency. This also allows Skyla to stay behind and provide rocket support from afar, this saves some writing but still allows you to contribute to the story.
That sounds all like Metagaming, Midnight.
Hey, just putting a suggestion out there.
@Thin
but when they start strutting around pretending like they're geniuses and I'm just a lowly student at their feet, that's when I have to watch my temper.
I am not a genius, but neither are you. If you are so reluctant as to accept or learn anything from anyone, then why should I, or anyone, accept or learn anything from you? Debate is an active exchange of ideal between a group people, not this. This is why I find it meaningless to debate with you, it is only a waste of time that only lead up to a never ending downward spiral.
But through you, I learned something, and it is that some people never change, and you have proved it to be true through your own actions, and not through preaching. You have demonstrated your unwillingness to change or adapt to any other ideal or believes other than that of your own. And it was through this I realized something: You deserve an equal, someone who will uphold his ideal with every single ounce of his being that you used to preserve yours. An eye for an eye, isn't that right?
Sat, 01/16/2016 - 08:03
#471
@Midnight-Dj
It looks like Midnight has volunteered himself to be an example of what I'm talking about.
If you are so reluctant to accept or learn anything from anyone...
False generalization. Since you've failed to teach me anything yourself, you believe I am incapable of being taught. I find the notion laughable when I consider how many times I've had to rethink my views or even reconstruct them from scratch based on potent arguments made by agnostics & atheists I've debated with over the years.
You have demonstrated unwillingness to change.
Two problems with that.
1. It assumes I am incapable of accepting rational conclusions.
2. It assumes you've given me something rational to change to.
I reject both of those assumptions.
An eye for an eye, isn't that right?
That would be mockery, which only occurs when the individual believes himself to be in a superior position. It's not even doctrinally correct.
Your entire reply reeks of pride. This whole time, you've basically been telling me, "If you don't believe what I tell you, then you are irrational and incapable of learning." You fancy yourself the teacher and me the student; when I disagree with you, it couldn't possibly be because I might have a point, and must be corrected. You're not the teacher, and I'm not your student. We are equals. I will change my views if you can prove them true or superior to mine, which is the whole point of debate. Don't think I'm incapable of learning just because I dare to challenge you.
Sat, 01/16/2016 - 08:31
#472
@Midnight-Dj
To put this more simply:
*When you challenge me, you think you're making rational arguments.
*When I challenge you, you think I'm just not accepting how right you are.
Sat, 01/16/2016 - 13:37
#473
@Thin
Since you've failed to teach me anything yourself, you believe I am incapable of being taught.
I know you can learn, but like drawing, you may be able to draw better over time through self teaching or tutoring, but if I suddenly tell you to use an other paint method or digital art, would you achieve transition over night? No, you will feel uncomfortable and squeeze slowly out of their comfort zone, when I say people can never change, what I meant to say it is VERY hard to change. Are you capable of being taught? Yes, all human can, but is it worth my time? Sorry, no. I used the absolute as an exaggeration.
I find the notion laughable when I consider how many times I've had to rethink my views or even reconstruct them from scratch based on potent arguments made by agnostics & atheists I've debated with over the years.
That shouldn't be possible, you cannot have multiple view, you even stated yourself one time, that Bible contains the summary of all truths in the world, you even told me to 'good luck find it else where'. If that is the case, then all of the guidance/rational statements you need is in one book, not ifs or buts. Or is it? Do you finally realize that Bible may not have all the answers to your life? If that is the case, I am impressed. If not, I won't judge because that is sort of expected.
It assumes I am incapable of accepting rational conclusions.
It assumes you've given me something rational to change to.
Like the previous statement, incapable of learning is an exaggeration. But I find a severe lack of evidence to suggest that you've learned anything or accepted any rational view, call me generalizing, but every view in the world have a trace of personal opinion in it so here we go:
-Every story you make seems to follow a similar path way, with character that I have pointed out to be just be the iteration of previous characters, you seemed offended when I pointed them out.
-You stated that Gwen cannot heal a traumatized mind, yet later on in the same RP, she was capable to isolating a God like Spirit out of someone's soul and shoved it into another dimension. Plot convenience? I swear Gwen's capability is retconn'd at least several time through out her conception.
-You call yourself an US citizen, and yet you completely disregarded the first amendment, an US law that specifically stated, that no law, should be made with any religion in mind. Later on you state that Christianity is the backbone to the Moral integrity in US, which the first amendment prohibited.
-You think homosexuality is a sin and need to be repented for, even as the entire US passed the gay marriage bill. Do you still think the same way about homosexuality? Or do the US law mean nothing to you?
-When I ask you to provide an evidence for God's existence, all you ever said is 'Repent and believe', unfortunately, even if God made a successful communion with me. It will not suffice as an evidence for his existence. He may exist for me, but not to everyone else.
Your entire reply reeks of pride. This whole time, you've basically been telling me, "If you don't believe what I tell you, then you are irrational and incapable of learning." You fancy yourself the teacher and me the student;
Do not think that I believe you cannot learn anything because of my own personal pride, it is a trend observed ever since I arrived here three years ago, or at least, become active in this forum two years ago. With the analysis of multiple incidents and I find many coincidence. I mentioned some of them above.
Do I need you to believe in what I tell you? No, believe is too strong of a word, but have you ever 'considered' what I told you throughout the years? Or do you brush them aside like I think you probably did?
You're not the teacher, and I'm not your student We are equals.
Wait, weren't you the one who said, no one is created equal? And didn't I already said that you 'deserve an equal'? Well, here I am.
I will change my views if you can prove them true or superior to mine, which is the whole point of debate.
And what is 'True' and 'Superior' meant to you? I honestly don't know at this point. If you truly think we are equal in our views and ideals, then neither of us can teach the other anything. Which then confirms that fact that you are incapable of learning, not from me anyway.
When you challenge me, you think you're making rational arguments.
When I challenge you, you think I'm just not accepting how right you are.
It looks like Thin has volunteered himself to be an example of what I'm talking about. Those statement too are assumptions are they not?
1. It assumes that I believe all my arguments made towards you are rational.
2. It assumes that I think I am right on of more frequent bases or at least in some kind of moral high ground.
I reject both of those assumptions.
Sat, 01/16/2016 - 14:08
#475
@Midnight-Dj
Wow. Just wow.
I think I'll answer a few of the above criticisms.
*I don't believe the Bible contains a summary of all the truths in the world. I believe it contains all the truths we can be certain of. HUGE difference. I'm not completely sold on that belief, but all the evidence I've seen thus far points in that direction.
*Some of my characters do carry over similar traits from others, true, but that's not the same as calling them essentially the same character. Lady Grey, Astran Valderis, and Gwenivere all have fundamentally different character concepts with some overlapping traits, while Cherub is correctly identified as a male iteration of Gwen (along with the necessary male-specific changes associated with that). You've been training yourself to see only the similarities between my characters, so of course you think they're the same. Step out of your box and you'll find that they're actually quite different.
*The First Amendment prevents government from making laws that say 1) "believe this or else" or 2) "don't believe this or else". It prevents laws regarding the "establishment of religion" or "prohibiting the free exercise thereof." So the President could be a church pastor and pray during every State of the Union Address and still be following the Constitution. He is NOT, however, allowed to outlaw Islam or make Atheism the official government doctrine. The idea behind the First Amendment is to allow people to believe what they want and voice their beliefs without undue restriction from government. Taking all religion out of government entirely runs contrary to the First Amendment and its underlying concept. (That, and it's impossible)
*God commands us to follow secular law inasmuch as it does not compel us to disobey God's laws. That's all I have to say on the matter of homosexuality.
*I won't even go into the question of evidence for God's existence right now. I need more patience with you than I currently have right now.
EDIT: @Liminori: I feel your pain.
Sat, 01/16/2016 - 14:10
#476
@Midnight-Dj
Now, I understand you'd probably want to debate with me on several of the aforementioned subject, but please hold your horses. Right now, I'm just trying to correct your understanding on what I actually believe and on a few minor points of politics. Substantive debate should be held on a different thread, if at all.
Sat, 01/16/2016 - 14:11
#477
I hate double-posts.
Sat, 01/16/2016 - 19:27
#478
I'm bac- Bad time?
Right! Well. Good time to check the discussion forums, am I right?
Sat, 01/16/2016 - 19:29
#479
@Bombing-Run
R-Right, excellent time to check the discussion forums! Heh heh...
*twiddles fingers nervously*
Sat, 01/16/2016 - 22:55
#480
It might be time, to just drop it. BUt then again I am not involved.
Sat, 01/16/2016 - 23:14
#481
Dropping it is pretty much in Midnight-Dj's court at the moment. Unless he says something really provokative, I plan on ignoring it.
Sat, 01/16/2016 - 23:20
#482
Mjark!
I am also in favor of dropping the subject.
Also, Skyla did respond. . .
sorta
Sat, 01/16/2016 - 23:40
#483
Amen to dropping the subject.
And what an amazing response it was from Skyla!
Also Cobalt's sitting in a corner by himself like the loner he is.
Sun, 01/17/2016 - 00:04
#484
Back for real this time. I guess Ragnir can ask about what he missed.
Mon, 01/18/2016 - 22:55
#485
@Kurelion
The character Kurelion should probably express his thoughts to Cherub, who's still leader at the moment.
Sun, 01/24/2016 - 19:38
#486
Yarg
Don't be dead.
Sun, 01/24/2016 - 22:12
#487
Liminori is a Pirate confirmed
It's not dead, we're fiiiiiiine.
*Dry cough*
FIIIIIIIIIIIIINE.
Mon, 01/25/2016 - 04:08
#488
Did I blunder?
Excuse me, just asking, are we allowed to imagine what Haven looks like in our posts as long as it makes sense and is relevant? If not, inform me and I shall make some (quite heavy) changes to what I wrote. Thanks in advance.
Mon, 01/25/2016 - 07:36
#489
@Hilman-Hx
For now, assume Haven looks like it does in-game.
Wed, 01/27/2016 - 00:01
#490
@Thinslayer
I do whatever I want!!! :)
Try involve Cherub more into the story so I'll have a good reason to talk to him about something [:
By the way, I always forget to check out this forum :P
Well right now he is Critically wounded, not Mortally Wounded. At best he has had First Aid administered and able to move, getting into battle would indeed Mortally Wound him (Mortal Wound = Death with no hope) so it might be advantages to take the advantage and give us a perspective through Den's eyes.