Spiral Knights - Return to Cradle: Origins (roleplay discussion)

Return to Cradle: Origins (roleplay discussion)

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Mon, 07/15/2013 - 17:38

#501

Gzilla

@Ultima

Did you REALLY just kill off the main villain?

Mon, 07/15/2013 - 19:08

#502

Thinslayer

@Ultimaknightz

Thank you Gzilla, that pretty much sums it up.

Ultima: first off, Diablo is the main villain. Abaddon is not. If we let your post remain unchanged, then we will have to find a way to give Diablo his superpowers, get rid of Abbadon, and get rid of Diablo. Getting rid of Diablo will not be a priority for the characters while Abaddon is running around, and killing Abaddon first will end the story before Diablo can be sealed in the Core.

"Why would the story end with killing Abaddon? Can't they just continue by killing Diablo next?" In theory, yes, but not in practice. Killing a supervillain will just feel like an ending, and blow all the steam out of the story. And even if that doesn't happen, the same forces that stopped Abaddon can stop Diablo even more easily, resulting in an anticlimactic ending. Either way you look at it, Abaddon has doomed the story.

What were you trying to accomplish by adding Abaddon? Did you just feel the need to give your character more meaning in the story? Was it an attempt to steal the spotlight? Perhaps Abaddon was all part of your plan for somehow establishing Diablo as the villain? Talk to me; why is Abaddon here?

Tue, 07/16/2013 - 20:55

#503

Archemiday-Thebard

the 3 week derp.

I have returned to my igloo, after not posting for 500 years. If its not too late, could I make a new chara or use Arch?

Tue, 07/16/2013 - 21:07

#504

Kaijuhunter

Yeah... No.

I wouldn't suggest it. For the most part, this thread is dead. Proto wars will do -hopefully- better

Tue, 07/16/2013 - 21:17

#505

Callis-The-Wicked

It's not dead...

Topo's just gone for 5 days....

Tue, 07/16/2013 - 21:25

#506

Thinslayer

@Kaijuhunter

It won't be dead once the major players start posting again. Speaking of which, what should be our next step? Gwen is going to stay in the Owlite Tribe for a few days to train her teleforce skills (translate: comes back as a big hero). Also, Gwen's gonna confront Kirito (though probably not confrontationally) about his problem with the Valentines at some later point.

Any other plans? Astraea needs to get out of that mansion and get back to queening. And Kirito has a few more Valentine heads to be rid of.

Wed, 07/17/2013 - 02:09

#507

Frostrex

Welp

Nothing I post really matters any more, because I take a break and the story has progressed too much for Otto to really matter. Not trying to induce pity here, but that's what it looks like. What could Otto possibly do?

Wed, 07/17/2013 - 02:30

#508

Callis-The-Wicked

This is why you don't go loner

Everyone constsntly needs posts to rebound off of. Seatus would be his normal self right now, conetantly bouncing off of everyone's posts at the same time, but everyone is separated except Seatus, Astraea, Kirito, and Abbadin. Since those other characters mainly revolve around two players, I'm stuck until one of them posts.

You yourself may need to find them to get any real post chain going

Wed, 07/17/2013 - 02:44

#509

Frostrex

Yah, I know

But it needs to make sense. I can't just teleport him in there. And did no one seriously care that I gave Otto all that crap?

Wed, 07/17/2013 - 02:51

#510

Callis-The-Wicked

Oh we cared :)

We just couldn't communicate in-story. Now, if Otto had, say, long-distance telepathy...Seatus could get him there.

Wed, 07/17/2013 - 02:56

#511

Frostrex

Nah

He can only communicate with ones like him and Shark. And the entity that speaks to them THINKS he's a god.
And what I meant by no one caring was that you were the only one that said anything about it and it wasn't criticism or hate.

Wed, 07/17/2013 - 03:03

#512

Callis-The-Wicked

Nah, I know that everyone noticed. XD

Damn, well this could be hard to reattach your character. Kind of like unravelling ten tangled cords...

Wed, 07/17/2013 - 03:15

#513

Frostrex

Hail to the King!

More like earbuds a second after you put them in your pocket.

Wed, 07/17/2013 - 05:09

#514

Topoyozariane

Hey guys

Hi guys! Topoyozada here! Anyways..... I'm on vacation now, but I can post rarely. All hail free wifi in hotels!!! So, Otto.... Maybe he can like escape, misunderstand, and try to kill Seatus?

@Gwen I'll make a superb recovery in just two days. In those days, Ill be requesting Gwen's presence. And mumbling. But then I need Thin to make the first post :P

@everyone: sorry of my posts sound or look incoherent, or have major spelling mistakes. There's a limit to what a person can dobon vacation with a IPhone 3 and with free, slow wifi. Sorry!

Wed, 07/17/2013 - 06:51

#515

Thinslayer

I came, I saw, I cared

@Frostrex: I noticed and cared too. I concur with Seatus; I didn't know what to do with the post except wait for a follow-up.

@Topoyozariane: okay, what do you need Gwen to do in the next post in order for you to make your move?

@Archemiday-Thebard: you can still salvage your character. Only about a day has passed in the story. Maybe Arch slept through it all? xD

He could start by talking to Takiza, who is cleaning up the broken glass in the speaking hall. Vanaduke is chatting merrily with him.

Wed, 07/17/2013 - 07:06

#516

Kaijuhunter

Well.

I think Kirito has one more target... And Astraea is about to banish Abaddon from Damian's body in the strangest way possible.
Post coming soon.

By the way, will anyone give Rose the kindness and love she desperately needs? :3

Wed, 07/17/2013 - 07:10

#517

Thinslayer

@Kaijuhunter

The Finder, of all people, might show kindness to Rose.

Wed, 07/17/2013 - 09:37

#518

Gzilla

@Thin

Did everyone forget that Axis bombarded the council hall with triumvirate and rogue valkyries? And sure Kaiju, if by love you mean turning her into a pile of charcoal xD.

Wed, 07/17/2013 - 10:07

#519

Thinslayer

@Gzilla

I thought he bombarded the mansion?
/derp

Wed, 07/17/2013 - 10:32

#520

Gzilla

@Thin

Right before he left the council building, he called in the triumvirate against the council.

Wed, 07/17/2013 - 11:22

#521

Thinslayer

@Gzilla

So...how do we salvage the situation?

Wed, 07/17/2013 - 15:58

#522

Topoyozariane

Well.....

Gwen could find about the attack on the council? Then she'll be concentrating REALLY hard on her studies of magical arts. She'll visit Topoyozada in the infrimary (I hope he's in the infrimary, not outside where you and Gray left him....)

Then Topo might be awake sometimes, and well have chats. In those 5 days, after my recovery, will be filled with combat training, and being a human to test her magical attacks on. :P

@everyone: Oh, and did anyone notice Ultimateknight gone? Again? I'm on vacation and i wake up REAL early to post on mahjong, but whereas he now? After his mistake with Abaddon, he just abandoned us.

Wed, 07/17/2013 - 17:28

#523

Thinslayer

@Topoyozariane

Actually, I have other plans for Gwen. She will study the weaving arts for about two days, then go off on as-of-yet unstated missions for the remaining three.

And fear not, Topo is in the infirmary now. xD

He's an angel, right? He should probably practice the weaving arts, too, while he still can. Once he and Gwen leave, he'll have a very hard time finding the Owlite Tribe again.

Thu, 07/18/2013 - 04:45

#524

Callis-The-Wicked

CLOSEST LOOKALIKES BY FAR, POSSIBLY FINAL PICS OF SEATUS

Gwen? White Queen Form?

Alice or Gwen in Eden?

Thu, 07/18/2013 - 07:15

#525

Kaijuhunter

The weaving arts?!

Well. That sounds like something that can defeat Diablo. Yes, let's all weave beautiful tapestries; maybe Diablo will be bored to death! -.-

Thu, 07/18/2013 - 07:45

#526

Thinslayer

@Kaijuhunter

It's a term I took from Escape Velocity: Nova. "Weaving" is the art of bending spacetime in ways that generate the effects you want. Like its namesake, it is not a simple task that just any telepath can perform; it requires training. A complex spacetime weave ( like a creation/engineering weave) resembles a dance.

If it helps, think of it as you would in this sentence: "He weaved his way through the crowd."

I've already used the term; have you not seen the "snap weave," used to create fire blasts?

Thu, 07/18/2013 - 09:47

#527

Gzilla

@Thin

Can I just change the corrupted CE to canisters then? I was thinking with the crystalizer going haywire, it's process for making the CE canisters would be flawed, thus creating the corrupted canisters.

Thu, 07/18/2013 - 10:07

#528

Thinslayer

@Gzilla

If the process is flawed, then it will either create CE inefficiently or fail to work at all. What's haywire about it is that it is uncontrollable, not that there is anything wrong with the process.

Energy is generally incorruptible. I think there exists dark energy, but I don't know whether it is merely co-existent with light energy or a modification of light energy. The only practical difference between dark energy and light energy is that dark energy follows slightly different physics; there is nothing inherently evil or corrupt about either of them.

The reason why dark energy is perceived as evil is because exposure to it can cause people to become insane or worse. However, they often forget that light energy causes similar effects, dubbed "irradiation," which can cause cancer, internal burns, or worse. Again, neither is really worse than the other. They are just different.

When used in weaponry, they both follow Newtonian physics. Well, mostly.

So, if Axis wants to corrupt the energy, dark or otherwise, he still has to figure out how to weaponize it, because pure crystal energy of either kind simply breaks or vaporizes under excessive force.

Thu, 07/18/2013 - 13:41

#529

Callis-The-Wicked

I will use it!

The pic labelled "The Real Seatus" will be my official Seatus. It was so spot on I was surprised to see it.

Thu, 07/18/2013 - 14:05

#530

Callis-The-Wicked

Mmmh

Just love it when people wave away pic hunts...

APP TO GET THIS STORY GOING!!!
Name: Alice (yeah, THAT Alice)
Gender: Female
Race: Unknown
Appearance: Here(isn't an angel)
Bio: Nothing. Absolutely nothing.

((Powers: None known of.[basically none except a way of transport. That IS teleportation.]))

Thu, 07/18/2013 - 14:20

#531

Thinslayer

@Seatus

"The Real Seatus" looks kinda cool. And your "Alice" pic is roughly how I imagined her. :)

Thu, 07/18/2013 - 14:26

#532

Callis-The-Wicked

Thanks for at least commenting on them Thin XD

Thu, 07/18/2013 - 14:30

#533

Thinslayer

@Seatus

You're welcome. I sometimes wish people would do the same for me. :/

By the way, I'm trying to get Coolbluex to do another commissioned drawing. I'm thinking that it will be a picture of Arthur Valentine, the last sane member of that despicable family (aside from Gwen). He died mysteriously.

Arthur would be one of Gwen's cousins.

Thu, 07/18/2013 - 14:33

#534

Kaijuhunter

...

The Seatus one looks kind of funny... I'm sorry, but that's my opinion. I didn't think much of it, so I never responded.

Thu, 07/18/2013 - 15:41

#535

Callis-The-Wicked

How funny?

His hair is that syle...and that bird is trolling ;-;

That awkward moment when I don't realize something blatantly obvious...

Thu, 07/18/2013 - 17:40

#536

Callis-The-Wicked

FINE FINE FINE FINE FINE FINE FINE FINE FINE FINE FINE FINE FINE

I'll still forever be looking for Seatus -w-....

Thu, 07/18/2013 - 17:55

#537

Thinslayer

@Seatus

D'awww. He looked fine to me, even considering that he has thin braids, sexy girl clothes, earrings, and...oh, forget it. xD

I'm only half-joking. While each element of his appearance has girlish themes, the combination of them all makes him look manly and cool.

Also, I'm cooking up a story post, but I'm having a lot of trouble with the plot. Damsel in distress? Badarse assassain girl? Both? I can't decide, and it's holding up the post until I do.

Thu, 07/18/2013 - 18:01

#538

Thinslayer

RWBY Pilot

Also, there's THIS!! :D

Thu, 07/18/2013 - 18:25

#539

Callis-The-Wicked

Well

Seatus obviously doesn't have the armor or earrings XD...

Badass girl arrived...

Thu, 07/18/2013 - 21:24

#540

Gzilla

@Seatus

Where is the portal leading to? Is it in the same place as the group, or somewhere else?

Thu, 07/18/2013 - 21:37

#541

Callis-The-Wicked

Brandell's Fortress

Leads there. Alice can track Seatus to any time and any place. She decided the group would be safer with him. Everyone leaves the portal, it will snap shut. The place where he entered is closed.

The portal itself runs through the underside of all reality. The Swarm Heart, the original Swarm, lies at the center, surrounded by the worlds claimed by the Snarbolaxes. Everything within the realm is connected except Abbadon's prison and the Swarm Heart., meaning the bridges are black veins hinted with glowing red...veins. Everything except the exceptions is connect either physically or mentally.

The Swarm connected everything but itself, though each Snarbolax has a piece of the Swarm in them, giving immortality but taking sanity and a bit of their normal form, turning them into almost a blurry or smoky figures.

Fri, 07/19/2013 - 07:09

#542

Callis-The-Wicked

Rabbit

The worlds are his. Everything that play out will be by his hand alone...the Star Dragon creates, Alice discovers, and Rabbit plans...

My life and existence revolves around the Alice in Wonderland. So many things can be tampered with, and so much lore...

Is it any wonder why a raven is like a writing desk?

Fri, 07/19/2013 - 07:08

#543

Callis-The-Wicked

Gladly

I'd glady accept someone else's lore to get things done. Not exactly Ultima's...his is based off...well, him.

And if you guys really want a consistent pic of Seatus, refer to either The Real Seatus or this song's pic Here

Fri, 07/19/2013 - 10:34

#544

Thinslayer

@Seatus

Edit: I have some lore ideas we could explore.

First, compare an Eye of Fury with the Eye of the Swarm. This Swarm eye is also seen on the Gran Faust. The Divine Avenger has a similar golden eye. For reference, this is what a real eye of fury might look like. The eyes of fury are associated with lightning in Spiral Knights. Lightning is associated with energy in Spiral Knights. Thus, the eyes of fury are associated with energy. So I had a few ideas for them. They could 1) be actual energy crystals, i.e. CE, 2) be some kind of physical manifestation of a sentient entity, or 3) be some kind of semi-magical device, like a teleforce enhancer or something. Tentatively, I'm thinking that they should be #2, the physical manifestation of a sentient entity, especially since they are called "eyes." Opinions, anyone?

Fri, 07/19/2013 - 16:42

#545

Callis-The-Wicked

Everything I do is inconsistent

I agree with #2

And this is officially my new Titles name, since Kaijuhunter's post made me laugh so much...

Kaiju, I'm doing it for the good of the roleplay. I HAVE TO KEEP IT ALIVE...for Quexi, who may or may not show up at the next plot-clog.

Sat, 07/20/2013 - 05:27

#546

Frostrex

Hail to the King!

Okay. Sorry for not noticing Seatus bringing Otto in. But now I've skimmed over the posts and can't find a logical and safe way of coming back in. Suggestions?

Sat, 07/20/2013 - 06:22

#547

Thinslayer

@Frostrex

Since Seatus brought him here, Otto may as well make conversation. He's undoubtedly curious about what has happened since he was last there. Among the new things are:

*Gwen's gray cloak and hood (Grey Feather set)
*the white lady with the party (Alice)
*Morai troops with Spiral Order markings (Euclid's squad)
*the mustached man in the hall (High Chancellor Lord Brandell)

Is he not curious?

Also, there should be combat soon. Axis was intending to bomb Al'Goth Citadel (where they are now).

Sat, 07/20/2013 - 07:09

#548

Callis-The-Wicked

**IMPORTANT**

Please guys. bear with me. I am probably as annoyed of Seatus's lore more than anyone, mostly because I'm the one writing such complicated notions. I have to get to the end of this RP. It's the only way I'm going to be able to change Seatus once and for all. All this jumble in my head is going to make sense soon, I swear. I make webs to connect them. You remember how I surprised you with how Seatus entered the story? That's the only moment of joy I have. I only want to send the audience into awe. I make chaos to establish it as order. The roles are all characters of mine are all to be connected. The White Queen could be no other than one of the most powerful characters in this RP. The guards of the Red Queen obviously nust have come from somewhere, and who is the most likely one in this RP to bring the Swarm THROUGH the portal? And WHO is exactly Rabbit? And Alice. Dear, DEAR Alice. She knows the exact secret of how they all connect.

Everyone fulfill your lore first. I will keep my lore out of the way until then. Gzilla, I've given you a VITAL clue on what your character is to do in the underside of reality/portal. Keep it secret with Axis, and show it at the right time and the right place.

This RP will not have a happy ending for Seatus. Time to create the ultimately supportive, shadiest character yet...

@Kaijuhunter I know you despise my lore. Insanely. But your character, Astraea, is also VITAL. If I have your help at the end of the RP and the subplot, I will stop with my lore-plot-twisters confusing everyone. And then it will begin, where the confused Gwen from the future wants to punish Seatus. We may move deeper into Thinslayer's lore. But I use the Alice Lore as my only tool. This is the last time I will need that tool. And Astraea needs not to accept the title or become the lore, it's only Seatus's way of naming things and understanding them because they correspond with his faith. Astraea is as vital to Cradle as Gwen is. And what if she ends up not dying, but instead being lost on Cradle, with a man she loves(ultimately also being titled by Seatus's faith...)? If not, it's okay, no harm done, an NPC can take the role. It's just an interesting, long-term plan I've had boiling since Ikaros appeared in RtC....

Sat, 07/20/2013 - 07:14

#549

Thinslayer

O.O

@Seatus: Well, now you've got me intrigued. Guess we really have to finish this RP then, huh?

Oh darn, I keep forgetting about Diablo. He'll come around in a few posts, armed with a boatload of badarse.

Sat, 07/20/2013 - 07:36

#550

Callis-The-Wicked

Everything I do is inconsistent

Good to hear.

My tale stays complicated to become amazing.

** One of my Favorite Alice Songs **

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