You're sick,because you probably wouldn't care if you have to waste your stupid 700ce on those crystals so go off now and waste it if you wish.....

What I'm saying is that Maharito doesn't care about the posts, which means he doesn't care about the drop rates or cost.

If we sat there shut up, we would be bankers losing valuable time and money every single day.

You all know those reviews Metacritic did and pummeled OOO because the energy system WHICH METASCORE SHOULD'VE NOT ACTED LIKE IT WAS THE FIRST TIME THEY SAW AN ENERGY SYSTEM? Now they should pummel OOO on their godawful Radiant drops and prices.

Some games are too addicting that you can't get out of the hook, we're the bait

Eventually someone's going to use Godwin's Law, and this thread'll be emptied.

You can't get anything done by "shutting up about it". The only way to get it fixed is to insure that the voices are heard. This would have been fixed already if this the front page of the forums were flooded with these types of threads everyday.

Two or three threads per day is really not a huge deal.

"Two or three threads per day is really not a huge deal."

Would you rather be killed with a rusty spoon or a bike chain?

Returning player here; did play back in long ago - when power lvling heat wep for CE was the thing, I stop playing when they just rolled out bind on equip for weapons since that killed it player heat lvling service.

FYI I won't be playing currently but maybe revisit in 6 months to a year or something to see what is new.

Forge - total rubbish and just an extra grind; low drops, each rank requiring different items, etc etc.
Honestly, the removal of CE cost for gates is so so since all it did was shift the cost to something else, to the extreme. More grind for the same reward. Casual players are certainly fubar in this regard.

Last is gameplay lag spikes and glitches. It's silly that i get frame drops and such on a fast system that can handle most games on max settings.
Saddens me this game is this way since I was wanting to get back into it.

The shift is amazing. Everyone is now actually free to play however you desire while with the energy cost elevators, if you didn't have an elevator pass the majority of people only cared about the crowns gained per energy. Fire crystals are really a minor annoyance if you look at the big picture of the freedom everyone got. People don't seem understand that if OOO gave away even more, they wouldn't be able to maintain to run the game. You can only give away so much if you ever plan to get something in exchange. The radiant fire crystals while unarguably a heated up case doesn't really warrant all the ruckus on the forums, yes, it sucks if you were to pay for all the radiants in the energy but with all announced by Nick stuff which might be still far in the future it's not something i'd get annoyed by because I'd think they will be put in there, as a reward for actually good players. The amount you need to pay for radiants if you care for the CTR gain could get you trinkets and trinkets slot for a long time. Yes, your damage still suffers but if you upgrade to 5*, you do it mainly for the upgraded functionality.

The recent Apocrea event also has shown that they kinda care because even after the nerf, the rates were in my opinion much easily farmable and much better than, let's say, for the black cat event if we were to craft all the piece of equipment so I'd see that as an improvement. Apocrea was also better thought out as an event, you could focus on the task while also reaping the benefits of the great arenas that were in the missions rotation.

Let's just make one thing clear Rahul... Lag in specific countries is due to budget, not quality. Servers are expensive. Valve is a big company and thus can afford servers across the world. OOO is a small companies, and must make do with fewer servers, thus certain countries get a better connection compared to others.

Also, Lag compensation systems? Disconnect from a Tf2 game and you lose your score, kill count, etc. Disconnect from an SK run and you'll be teleported along, so you don't hold up your allies, and you keep all your vials/vitapods. Admittedly you still can be killed, which is the only part I can complain about, however there's no real way to fix that without making it horribly abusable. If you mean ways to reduce lag via optimization... well I don't think either of us can say anything about that unless you've gone through the SK/Tf2 program files.

Tf2 also is built around the matches, rather than the map. It's PvP. The enemy players make the match, who can be unpredictable and constantly changing/adapting. The map is just the backdrop. In Spiral Knights PvE, it's all about the level. Many levels are randomly generated, but beyond that they kinda have to be relatively fixed/constant. Even then, there are a massive array of diverse and unique levels in SK, and recent patches are pushing people to not just grind the same set of levels. If you talk to many SK veterans, they'll say Lockdown is why they stick around, despite lockdown having fewer levels than the arcade. Why? Same reason Tf2 is entertaining, even if you play 100 matches on the same 3 levels.

Once this game picks up speed again, I'm sure people, including me, will start splashing cash... We just need a reason to splash it :)

No to Radiants!

Who the hell buys radiants? Just run through dan or do a few t3 arenas, and BAMM, radiants. The inflated ce price is partially due to the free elevators + the mission system. You could play 32/9 if you wanted to. Many players still get to 5* too fast, and most of them are completely lost, ending up dying even to easier enemies.

Rads could start dropping from d24, though. Or at least they could increase the chance on d25, getting rads on d25 once or twice every month is not gonna cut it.

@Enclavean

3 runs isn't really enough for relevant data. When running DaN, I seldom get under 20 rads per run, usually closer to 25-30 rads per run. You had some pretty bad RNG luck there.

Again, I'm saying you have had pretty bad luck. Just because you did 4 runs in a row and didn't break 20 rads per run doesn't mean that DaN is a bad radiant farm. Considering what we have, it's a great radiant farm. That being said, I do believe rads could use a bit of a boost in drop rate but not a huge one.

Was probably 12, forgive me. I was very sleepy when I posted that.

That being said, I do believe FSC is the best way to farm radiants because it also gives money, heat, shinings, mats, and yeah. DaN gives nothing until you reach the end.

Also I had another run today, and got 39 Radiants. Felt good I must admit >:)

The calculated average is much closer to 22.something, from fehzor's mega thread and my own calculations for my data project

Its easily the best place for rads taking into account all factors, more than fsc and it doesnt cost more that it gives (shadow lairs)

@Enclaevean

FSC is a decent alternative if you need shinings. If you don't, then it isn't as good as DaN.

Note that practically none of my five star items are fully heated :x

The reasons radiants stink is there's no easy way to get to them casually in a timely manner, and once you get there it's largely up to chance whether or not you get anything worthwhile. For example, I've gotten literally zero radiants in dreams and nightmares, and on the coin flip I've gotten 30+ in consecutive runs, even going as high as 45 radiants. When 30 minutes ~= 700 energy it's sort of clear what choice the player will take though.

When you're accumulating an arsenal, radiants are a huge hindrance. Recently I've sort of hit the end of my gear collection (for now at least), and suddenly my radiant farming habits have me back up 500 radiants and not needing to use them. That feels nice, but when I've spent over 45k radiants on my arsenal and never had more than 2k before the drought it's sort of a big deal.

One thing I did learn on my alt recently was that shinings were annoying to get because you have to get them to level 10 to progress, and most players trying to progress don't think about end-game grinding. Instead they think about progress they're not having right now because they see 5* just beyond their grasp. Because of that, shinings drop more frequently, and to be honest, that is completely fine. The solution is to open up more easily-accessible end-game farming grounds for radiants because shinings can be sought out in all places a 4* knight will be going, and that's actually healthy for the game. We need more levels like dreams and nightmares, or perhaps allow vanguards to continue into the core for loot at depth 30 and beyond, despite being depth ???.