Why is OOO even asking if players want pets? Becuase the people who want them make 5 threads apece about it, and all the people who don't really want them get too bored posting against it. Same goes for dual weilding, or those random boss ideas like "vannaduke with a DA and GF". There are millions of threads out there often started by the EXACT SAME PERSON. I'd LOVE to give out names, but OOO says you aren't supposed to call knights out on the fourms, and since I READ the rules and USE the search bar before posting what took me 5 seconds to brainstorm, I'm not listing anyone.
Furthermore, why is OOO not reading those great, little suggestions I've seen? Like tabbed chat? Ignoring people in the fourms? Becuase there's ussualy only one of those suggestions at a time. All the delinquents that spam post are the ones that actuualy seem to get through to OOO. The ones who need their extra garbage posts moved to the graveyard. Seriously, if you want an easy game with pets go play adventure quest or something.
OOO's totaly cool with caving becuase they need more players. Look at it; massive CE sales, elevator passes, people complaining about T1, almost no T1 pvp players. Nobody's really coming into the game. Their solution is to just try and hang onto what they have instead of drawing in new people.
That spiral poll. I don't even.
almost all mmo games have pets i want one but it cost real money but spiral knights only uses ce and crowns so i can maybe buy a pwt if we do have spets in spiral knights
Pet*
There's actually a good amount of players coming into the game and are staying
if they implement pets and they actually do damage I will remove anyone who has one from my party. The game isn't exactly easy, but I don't need it to become easy either. Same with dual wielding weapons if it leads to killing enemies in a second without having to worry about blocking.
As for T1 PvP, well 200cr is a lot and it isn't exactly something most people will try out right away. It only takes a few days to hit T2 and at that point there is no reason to do T1 PvP since you'll have to buy new equipment to join and be competitive. I've tried playing T2 lockdown and I get destroyed because all my equipment is 4*. So I'm not good enough for T3 PvP, but my equipment isn't allowed in T2. The stuff I have that is 2-3* sucks and I have to use a few 0-1* items.
Well, it depends upon the polls as to what we'll be seeing next. To tell you the truth, the whole accessory thing came out of no where (I do like my vertical vents though, not complaining). Still waiting on some exploration expansions and class expansions.
If pets would be and act like mecha knights, then no thanks. I hate those things.
u know pets are optional and mecha knights already exist
if ur too social to play without people whod use pets, then ur also too social to play without people who use mecha knights, which together with the optional part nullifies that argument of pets being an eyesore
ive been through the few updates, that i didnt really like, but i didnt complain about em, because as always its optional. there is no need to put ur opinion above all other players' opinions, the poll is there to let the majority decide
btw if im missing the topic, it may have to do with the huge block of text in the OP
I saw complaints about everything from shadow lairs to the avenger 'nerf'
Now, they ask us wethever we want something or not and we make this.
I'm hoping to see updates on the guild hall next. That's what I really want.
Chat tabs and customize guild halls.
I'd be fine with decorative pets, nothing that does damage.
Yes, keep them decorative. Mechaknights are already annoying as it is if not used for crowd control on bosses.
*shrugs* I would welcome every new change.
@Juances That's a community for you ;)
@Dancinjen Agreed! But kinda offtopic.
its sad how narrow minded people seem to be about pets. they could come with bonus stats, they could be an extra inventory slot for vials or pills, they could even be mounts, theres practically no limit to their functionality. especially in spiral knights with its unique energy system id expect a LITTLE bit more fantasy from my fellow mates..
I think that's what people DON'T want.
Pets that give you bonuses, would make those who can't afford one be left behind.
That's not quite so quite so bad in clockworks runs, but could affect Lockdown more, as players are fighting against each other instead of with each other.
Whoever has the best equipment has the advantage, and adding another expensive item with combat bonuses just heightens the gap between the players with lots of money (in-game or real) and those who don't.
Of course, a player with enough money to buy good equipment but who has no skill can still be beaten by someone with worse equipment but more skill, but the more advantages a rich person can buy, the less hope a player who doesn't spend money on the game has.
If pets had no combat bonuses of any kind and were simply accessories, then they wouldn't cause skill to be less important or anything like that, and would be another crown sink to help drive down the energy-crown exchange rate.
Really, I don't see people wanting changes to the combat system, no real desire to add more accessory types, but instead exploration and boss additions as the main want.
I am already scarred by running FSC too much, and I barely ran it at all. Got a shield and vendored a crap sword (FoV) to buy a gunslinger gear recipe (something useful)
I have resorted to only playing T3 LD (which is fun) and combat pets could make it like tier 2 lockdown where you will take advantage of people less rich than yourself depending on the cost. If OOO adds pets, its a non-combat thing most likely. What is our motive for having combat pets in SK anyway?
I want someone to explain in detail (detail. Saying they would make mounts is just silly because it is silly to even imagine a knight riding a poor... alpha wolver? and to store extra vials and pills is just over powered.) why pets.
so explain why you want combat pets and why it is better for SK as a whole and doesn't just over power us further below. Include balancing details as well. If you cannot explain this, then you officially have no support whatsoever on why there should be combat pets that over power the rich:
I'm against pets because of the lag they will bring if everyone has a pet.
Im against pets because I want to see other things that i've been waiting for since beta.
I'm against pets because I don't want the extra damage or whatever bonus to them. I don't want them to be this thing that helps you. I think it's silly, and I don't like it. I'm not being narrow minded I see they can bring extra... but i don't want it.
I want to customize guild halls. I want a better venue for guilds. I want more of a purpose for them. I know many others that feel the same way. I think guilds are being left behind. I do so much for the members of my guild that I really want to make things easier. Like announcement boards, a mini bazaar, inner-guild games. Like we can have our own lockdown place to play against each other and share secrets, like a super advanced training hall. It could be like in beta with super brawl.
Pets? I don't want the dev's or Ian spending time on designing pets.
You want pets? Go play WoW, or some other game.
If I see this poll, been getting some others lately, I'm rating it the lowest as possible.
+1 with Jen, I'd like some stuff I've been waiting for since beta.
If I wanted a pet I'd go play World of Warcraft. If you want a pet, you should do the same.
I'm not sure why anyone would want a pet, nor am I sure how anyone could justify the -need- for a pet when this game is completely enjoyable without one. If you want a pet for digital companionship, then you need something other than a pet to help you here as well.
Are we being closed-minded for saying pets are a bad idea? No. We're being practical and rational about what should be prioritized here. How about we focus more on the Knights themselves, such as expanding weapon gameplay, more levels, and even guild options? At least all of those foster general gameplay and two out of the three promote socializing with other players, which is what the game's roots are. All a pet would do, should the design be kept the way it's being suggested by No-Thanks, is drive a bigger stake between solo players and team players, and I'd rather not see that more often than it needs to.
That being said, I'm perfectly fine with a pet being considered an accessory of some kind, as long as it's just for aesthetics. If it affects gameplay, then yeah I agree with Nordlead. I would kick anyone and everyone who joined my party with a pet as a crutch to lean on.
im against all of ur arguments, because u all seem to know better about something, that isnt even defined yet
#15 its very unlikely that pets will cost even 1/10 as much as a good uv, the absence of pets wont solve ur issues in pvp of only rich players having expensive uvs
#16 i dont want it in particular..i just dont mind it especially if they ask for it
#17 my 1st line. id wana see that too, but 1 thing doesnt exclude the other, even if it delays the implementation, in the end its their decision to make. fine with me. eh..
#18 see #19
#19 i dont like wow, but the pets arent the reason for that. ther is no need for a pet, however u guys seem to have the absolute need for the absence of pets. no ur being "closed-minded" for having a precise picture of something, that isnt even designed yet. i dont know if ur even capable of understanding, that u just identified a pet with the already existing mecha knight and accessories once again, which is exactly what bothers me.
the thing is, that the poll mentions relevant things, nothing other than that, which could influence the players votes. im glad they put the poll there, so every1 can vote according to their own understanding without these kind of impressions from other players
I am for pets. I think 000 would only make them useable for clockworks. I don't think that they will do anything but help you fight like mecha knights(hopefully not). I'm pretty sure pets will bring more people into the game as lots of people like the Pokemon like feel of pets. However i would put guild hall changes and CONTENT ADDING(absolute must) before i even think about pets being implemented. The Game has 4 bosses, for a game that's over a year old now that's a bit sad. Not that the bosses ain't any good if you played for about a couple months chances are you are bored with them. Time for 000 to step up and start giving more stuff for us to do.
No to pets used in fight in clockworks or LD. Incrasing amount of players on screen during clockworks run already is incrasing lags and lowering game preformance. If everyone would have a pet it would only incrase even more.
Pets ONLY if they are just cosmetic and they only appear in heaven/guildhall/baazar/arcade
I could take anything that's cosmetic. The point of this post wasn't to purely shoot down pets (nice bonus though), it was to get people to notice that most of the pet fourms are just people repeating themselves over and over and over. Even if you do like pets, you should be against spam.
"You want pets? Go play WoW, or some other game."
"If I wanted a pet I'd go play World of Warcraft. If you want a pet, you should do the same."
"No to pets used in fight in clockworks or LD."
Thank you! I see to many games try to be more and more like the most famous game of that genre. More and more random free FPS's I play try to be more like halo. Precicely why I still play quake 3. Halo made so much money becuase it was almost completely original. I guess they took the robot suit thing from tribes, but you can't really trademark a robot suit.
"ive been through the few updates, that i didnt really like, but i didnt complain about em, because as always its optional. there is no need to put ur opinion above all other players' opinions, the poll is there to let the majority decide"
My opinion above others? Ohh but it's much the other way around. Did you read my post? People are spamming it all over. That's like voting for your favorite president twice. I'm hoping the poll will sort things out, and I'm just campaigning, to be ironic, to see for my self what the score is. I'd doubt OOO would release %'s on who voted for what. I'm not trying to put myself above anyone else, I'm just trying to be heard without filling up the first page of the suggestions fourm with one topic.
"the thing is, that the poll mentions relevant things, nothing other than that"
Well, yes and no. Pets are relevant, but that's becuase they're the most inflated topic in the fourms, next to dual weilding. I doubt 100% dual weilding will ever be put into the game.
I'm aware that I just described Mecha Knights, but there's a big difference that you seem to be overlooking - Mecha Knights expire, run out of energy, they just flat out die no matter how you want to word it. You know something else? I find mecha knights to be extremely annoying too, and have kicked people from the party because they'd spawn in 3 mecha knights thinking they're going to be helpful when they're more of a pain than anything else.
Also, feel free to call us "closed-minded", but when I pretty much said that your design for pets (i.e., giving them stat bonuses and/or beneficial effects on stats) was stupid, I meant it - the idea itself is stupid, with one of many reasons being because we already have mecha knights for this sort of thing. I'm sorry that I don't want another clone of the same concept being used because a few people on a forum said "we wantz it". Even then, just because they're (hypothetically) optional for each individual knight to have/own does not mean it's optional for each individual knight to deal with another knight who chose to get one. Assuming pets would be able to help fight monsters in the Clockworks, you best believe I'd kick anyone who brought one for the same reasons I noted above for mecha knights - they're annoying, they get in the way and they're impossible to control so that they're not in the way.
I did say pets as accessories would be perfectly okay, but only because accessories have an implied connotation of being useless in this particular game. As a result, as long as pets are just as equally useless, I don't care if they're put in. So please explain how that's being closed-minded, or kindly use a different term to collectively categorize people into. I don't see how I'm being closed-minded if I'm tired of seeing the same pointless request being made time and time again when absolutely no one's made a good argument for them being put into the game, while being practical at the same time.
The quick and easy ways to implement pets have been evaluated, only pets being accessories has been found acceptable. Rather than see OOO spend their time brainstorming instead of working on ther things, we'ce asked those player requesting pets to try coming up with better ideas, we've not yet seen anything satisfactory. That is the current situation, instead of telling us we haven't thought of all of the possiblities, think of them yourself if you want pets. We don't want pets, so we're not spending our time doing so.
"Also, feel free to call us "closed-minded", but when I pretty much said that your design for pets (i.e., giving them stat bonuses and/or beneficial effects on stats) was stupid, I meant it - the idea itself is stupid, with one of many reasons being because we already have mecha knights for this sort of thing."
mecha knights do not add any stats
mecha knights do not add any extra slot for vials or pills
"I'm sorry that I don't want another clone of the same concept being used because a few people on a forum said "we wantz it""
i dont know what forums u guys come from, but i dont see any people begging for pets here, i just see 2 threads, that are in disgust over useful pets
http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/38623
http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/38751
#25 im indifferent to pets, but the way, that people argue, disturbs me. however, in a poll that isnt the case
No-Thanks: Pets have been popping up in the Suggestions forums every once in a while for a very long time now. I just took a peek, and there's 3 threads on the front page alone that's to do with pets (one is against, two for).
As for my personal thoughts...it really depends on what the pets do. If having one means a great advantage over others--like a significant stat boost, or extra vial slots--then it basically forces everyone to have one, which sucks for people who don't want to have one following them around. If the pets are entities onto themselves and they can attack/tank, then it would depend on how skillful people use them. I mean, if someone with a pet keeps sending them in and mess up formations and such (like the mechaknight's stupid charge attack, argh), then it's a pain in the bum. Overall though, I don't particularly like the idea of pets in a game such as SK.
@No-Thanks
"mecha knights do not add any stats
mecha knights do not add any extra slot for vials or pills"
Everything I am about to say implies that you want a pet to add stats or more pills and vialsb because this is your intention.
No-Thanks, do you want success to be handed to you on a silver platter? Only because you can afford it?
We need to understand that pets are not going to be used in any way to assist us in the clockworks OR lockdown. That is just silly to want to overpower yourself. If they are added (which they are not the most important thing right now so they aren't going to be) then they are for cosmetics.
Just because something sounds good, like a 200000% damage bonus to DA, doesn't mean it's great. Oh yes, some people would be all for a 200000% bonus to DA, but overall, it would ruin the game. Please note this is just an example I am not suggesting from either side a damage buff to DA. If you post saying "we aren't talking about DA," then you clearly do not understand the comparison.
The damage buff to DA comapres to adding pets. Just makes the game easier. Maybe not that much, but still, its too powerful.
Instead of asking for pets, say "OOO, I want more pills and vials because we need more pills and vials" or "OOO, I want more stats because right now i feel that I truely need more stats."
Saying more pills and vials just as an excuse to have pets is a lame excuse to put something in the game that is practically irrelevant to the game period.
Same thing goes with stats. If you don't want more pills or stats and cannot support why there needs to be more pills or stats, then you are looking for the word cosmetics. Not a pathetic excuse to add a pet.
So how about reading my whole post instead of calling another person narrow minded, because you will not afterwards.
Pets should come after some actual new, non-aesthetic content.
I don't want them spending time on making pets until we get more substance in the game. I'm against pets in the clockworks, period. You want them? Have them as something to be with you in haven. It should be something rarer than any accessory you can get in the game. That the only way you can get it is in a lock box. It shouldn't be something that EVERYONE can access. It will bring lag and I don't want it on top of the lag I have already.
I REALLY want updates for the guild halls. I want it to be a training grounds for guilds. I'm all about team work and bringing the guild together. That's a fun and awesome way to encourage team and camaraderie.
And yes, you better believe I'm going to campaign getting a better guild hall.
You might not see this as a big deal because you aren't a guild master (at least i don't think so) but do you realize that not everyone wants to have to register on a web site, or register on forums? There is no way that I can send out a massive message to over 70 of my guild members in game that I would have to copy and past it to each guild member in a game mail. Yeah, I have a web site for the guild. I don't require people to register there because that's just silly. Especially when many others have other guilds or clans they are in, in other games. Then they have like 10 websites they have to register on because they all require that? no. My web site is for recruitment purposes only. I want announcement boards in the guild halls where I can put up advertisements for events, and just being goofy and all those things.
It would be cool if we were able to have a super brawl like what was in beta. The old beta pvp but for inner-guild pvp, so we can test our equipment on each other and goof around. Maybe even go as far to where we can have a feature to invite friends into the guild hall and fight with us in the superbrawl guild pvp. Just a thought. This idea is only completely beneficial to the game, to everyone. For those that aren't in guilds and dont' care to be in guilds... I'm sorry. It's just one of those things. This game is based on playing in a team atmosphere. You will progress much further and quicker in a good guild than by yourself.
I just think there are much better things for them to even consider than pets right now. Yeah, I'm pushing for guild halls. But different monsters and different levels with good heat and crowns would be awesome. Add something to the core maybe...something. But pets have no substance to them. They'll be more of a problem than anything.
And not only that, but people saying it will bring in people from pokemon. I mean really. I don't want any more young and immature people running around begging for money to get a pet. So, no. I don't want people from a CHILD'S game coming in here. Now, don't get into how older people play that game too when I know of at least 20 kids I used to baby sit under the age of 14 that played pokemon. Don't MAKE me go there.
EDIT:
+1 to Dancinjen :D
I'll leave this here...
http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/28678
And on top of that, we are knights, yet we have 0 dragons. WITCHCRAFT!
And yes I've been playing too much Skyrim, but in all honesty we should have that right? Maybe? idk.
No need for pets.
@No-Thanks
You stated yourself that in WoW there's no need for pets. Same reason here. We can debate back and forth but if there's no need for them in one game, then I can turn that against you universally. just saying.
Still, no pets, and if there are any, cosmetic only, and after we have a minimum of 10 bosses.
Please use grammar in your posts, it would make the points you are failing to make seem credible.
And finally, someone states that.
/applaud Melisan
I have to give meli a high five, I don't point things like that out becuase I get incrediflamed (To be on the topic of grammar, incrediflamed isn't a word.)
"i dont know what forums u guys come from, but i dont see any people begging for pets here, i just see 2 threads, that are in disgust over useful pets"
Look at this. Most of them are less than a comment in size, if not even a complete sentance.
http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/29377
http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/38700
http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/36136
http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/34146 (has the EXACT same name as previous topic?!?!)
http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/482 (EXACT same name as the previous two topics?!?!)
http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/37620 (4TH ONE IN A ROW, USE A SEARCHBAR)
http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/30634 (5TH FOURM NAMED "Pets" At least be original.)
http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/34698
http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/30375
http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/17937
http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/38170
http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/24118
http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/30520
http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/15580
http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/35635
http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/31338
http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/38783
http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/37003
http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/22918 (6th one named just pets)
http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/32517
http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/32077 (this is at least the 3rd one named spiral pets)
http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/34687
http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/20924
http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/35873
http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/5085
http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/34732
http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/31946
http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/30119
http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/30230 (This guy's had many many pet threads)
http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/10564
http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/37874
http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/37810
http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/38185
http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/28272 (another one just named pets. 7 threads with the same name is just disgusting.)
That's 34 topics. Same as the number of topics on this thread. 34 beats the two non pet threads that no thanks posted. Unless 34 isn't bigger than two. Many of them are by the SAME PEOPLE. They outspam us by a TON.
I could keep going, but I'm getting tired. If anyone wants to continue this go to the suggestions thread, type "pets" in the search bar, and jump to page seven.
i went through these threads(for most part the ones that didnt look uncomfortable to read), labeled and categorized them for simplicitys sake, so i get wher u guys r coming from
id still prefer the third option over cosmetics tho(see under category "sure")
AI = the stupid artificial intelligence of battle pet/mecha knight
ew
-AI-samething
-annoying and worthless/-AI
-AI
-taming/-AI
-pets=vials? lol?
-AI
-AI-food-gear-energy
-AI-CE generator
wtf
+++this has nothing to do with pets, but a few items could be revamped
?not sure, havent played world of warcraft..
???wth does this have to do with pets o_o
+mount-AI
-farfetchedrandomblahblah
+stats-rarity(-specified stats arent balanced, but they could be altered)-crown drop increase would imbalance gameplay and make it worse for f2p noobs
sure
+cosmetics
++guide(third option)
just for the luls(read post #1 on each xD)
http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/22918
http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/28272
http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/17937
seeing, that we "get too bored posting against it", we should leave them their glory. altho its saddening, if the nice suggestions get pushed away by such narrow minded suggestions, it wont change my vote in the poll, because ill always have in mind, that the pets could be nicer than in most suggestions.
people, who have time, wont stop suggesting, if theyre full of ideas and urges for the game
people, who have made up their mind, wont change their mind for a poll
at the same time u address an issue without delivering a solution to it
jim dale did suggest a revamped forum. all itd take is a poll system, that players could add to their threads to catch the developers attention, seeing that they fail to ask the right questions in the poll according to u. then again i read somewhere that the devs dont care about the web page at all, so glhf with that
If you want pets that fight for you go play pokemon.
There is NOTHING wrong with having suggestions when they are well thought out suggestions with good grammar that would actually benefit the spiral knights community and the game. Right now, I do not believe that pets are going to be beneficial in either way. I don't want something to fight for me or boost my stats. That's why I have trinkets and armor. Not to mention, and what others have mentioned, I don't want something I can NOT control in battle.
There you go with saying closed-minded again. I don't think that means what you think that means.
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"closed-minded
adjective
not ready to receive to new ideas"
The thing is I HAVE considered and received the new idea, then I didn't want it anymore. I thought about it and the many options that there could be. Want to hear some of the things I thought of without even reading any of the pet threads?
Option one:
They could take up a trinket slot and fight for us but only attack when the player is attacking something. The pet wouldn't add anything extra to the player stats themselves but it would have its own personal stats. That's the basics of one idea I thought would be a possibility.
Option two:
They would have their own slot and boost the players stats. They wouldn't fight at all but be cosmetic and add a special something to the player's stats according to what kind of pet it is. dog/wolver piercing as an example.
Option three:
They would be purely cosmetic and could be brought into the clockworks to be all cute and stuff.
Option four:
They would be purely cosmetic and couldn't be brought into the clockworks.
Option five:
They would boost the stats of a player but would not fight nor appear in the clockworks.
I have thought of way more than this and the only one that I can even think about semi-enjoying is option four. My thoughts are, I didn't care for getting accessories. I think they are cute and fun, and I'm glad I can decorate my outfits to make me look like a lady. I really want some new levels that give good heat and crowns. The other thing I really want is some guild hall updates as I expressed earlier. We REALLY need some guild updates. The update where we can see last log-in time was definitely something that has helped me so much when going through inactives. The trouble I went through to keep track who was active when and who last logged on was insane. I literally had an excel spreadsheet with lists of everyone in the guild and would put the date of when I saw them every time they logged on. Then if I hadn't seen anyone in a while I would send them an inactive notice in a mail and give them a week and a half to reply before having to remove them.
I'm happy for the update they have made to that and I'm excited for more updates they will make to guilds. I hope it's soon. I really don't want to see pet updates before there are other updates that could actually benefit everyone and the game. I don't think any of those ideas would actually be beneficial to the game. I think having pets would bring in a lot of younger kids that would drive away the older people who actually put their own money into the game.
How many younger kids actually have parents that let them put money into the game? I know my parents would never do that for me when I was younger. Now I put a lot of money into the game because I don't really go out and it's cheaper than spending 20-30 dollars for one night at the movies and a dinner. I can pay 20-30 dollars and play this game for hours whenever I want, and still get the things I need done, done.
There is my very logical and thought out reason why I have openly considered the idea of pets and rejected it.
I have a Xerox and a Fallout as pets already I don't want anymore.
If pets should be implemented, they should be VERY expensive (Millions-Billions) and purely cosmetic. How's that? If they're put in the game, they're put in the game. Whatever they might put, it's like a nail to the wall. It must be put in the correct space, for picture or for anything to give it a lasting purpose. When it's taken out, there'll be an ugly hole left that needs very good fixing. [EX: Tortodrone and Vog (R.I.P. I never got to see it)]. I personally don't see the havoc everybody's putting into this. What if OOO puts a good version of a pet-type being? They see players want pets, it could be a simple mechanic they'll plug in, unlike the entire Core. Orangeo, I see your frustration, but look at the Pros. A BETTER Mechaknight? Or even a cooler Knight? If a lot of players are asking (even if they are newbies) it could be a fad, and it could attract some new players to Spiral Knights ...
As for against, Lag would be a large problem. For an entire new monster that would not harm you (and possibly AID you) and to come in various appearances as well as almost doubling player numbers, there's going to be an issue with that. Taking care of pets would be terrible (a mechaknight is a good detection of aggravation, but at least it doesn't follow you when fighting!) and TRAINING? Sega could be linked to Nintendo, but SK is far from Pokemon. When OOO could be focusing attention to the Core, it also is putting attention to several of Pet threads. Then as for you Newbies wanting Pets, do NOT make this game like the game you were playing before! It's a sad day for you to come in to Spiral Knights to see it transformed into Adventure Quest Worlds.
"+++this has nothing to do with pets, but a few items could be revamped"
I'm sure there was a fluke or two in that list. I wasn't going to read each one in depth, I read the title and the text below. Someone must have had a comment asking for pets that appeared. (Leads me to another good suggestion blocked by spam; fix the search bar).
"that the pets could be nicer than in most suggestions."
A good point. Spaming generaly seems to tick people off. Sure you get attention, even OOO has acknowlaged. But it's getting shot down becuase it's pissing people off, since there are at least 30 topics on pets that go;
"i wan pets"
"i wan spiral battle pets becuas they r gud pls comment"
And if you dissagree you get flamed by that one guy and no one else.
"Orangeo, I see your frustration, but look at the Pros. A BETTER Mechaknight?"
That's not really my irk. I'm fine with people wanting pets, want what you like. Just don't tell everyone you see over and over. I mean it's a cool story. I've heard it. Don't tell me again, I should only have to comment against something on one topic and go do something else. I'd be fine with rare astetic pets or some kind of knightbot arena, and I can put up with anything else. Just don't heckle fourmers, as hard as that sounds.
"There is NOTHING wrong with having suggestions when they are well thought out suggestions with good grammar that would actually benefit the spiral knights community and the game."
Exactaly. The only point you missed was that you can't have repeats. No one cares if I invent the same light bulb edison did. Regardless of my grammar and thought process.
My point is don't be random, don't be illiterate, and don't be repetitive. I don't care if it's the greatest suggestion in the whole world. Search for copies, write it well, and post it once. I'm sure that's in the TOS.
So that's what you're mad about? Repetitive posts? Okay pets might be a problem here and there. Repetitive posts get annoying. Add on to a huge post? Then again, you don't want to be taking over posts. If it's going to be another post, then make it more unique than the others. Then illiterate posts are terrible and must be worked. Orangeo, are you angry at the posts or the pets? The name of the thread doesn't seem to match your new argument.
"If it's going to be another post, then make it more unique than the others."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKk_5BvY7g8
"Orangeo, are you angry at the posts or the pets?"
The reposts of the same thing. Seriously. I could care less about pets, I'm just P.O.ed about how people post the same one sentance idea over and over, and how OOO is not only cool with it, but how it's really one of the best ways to get their attention. I'm infuriated with the way some fourmers just spam, and how OOO encourages it. Pets? I don't want them, and I'll tell people, but that wasn't why I made this! It jst got derailed. Ironicaly a testimant of how many people don't want pets.
To me, it isn't that I don't like pets, depending on what they do or if there are many different types (support, attack, tank, etc) they could be a very, very good thing to include.
The actual problem is that we don't have any new place to try them on. There is been months since the latest enjoyable new content, and that is what people are asking for: things to do in the game other than "grinding for upgrading your looks". And that is why, while I am not against pets themselves, would prefer OOO to center around other priorities, such as keeping their playerbase entertained.
Oh, and more, I am not a PvP player, but I thought King Krogmo was going to have "many events" and we only have two right now.
No one picked up on the epic link in #41? Gahh.
Aumir, it's not really a pets thread. Pet's are just the easiest analogy. Its like when someone says "fast food" and you reply "Mcdonalds". I'm just sounding off on what I don't like about how OOO and the players do when they interact somethimes. Just to clear that out. Guess I could have picked a better name for the thread, but the poll itself IS the sole point that let us into those locked off minds of the GM's. I figured GM's would be ignoring things like pets completely, at least due to the unruly way they are suggested, regardless of how good or bad they may be for SK.
I mean it would seem OOO is in a bit of a pinch. Look;
Seemingly few new players.
Shadow lairs, reason for endgame players to keep playing the game.
Lockboxes, reason for engame players to continue buying and burning CE.
Massive CE sales, to increase the number of people that buy CE.
Listening to mass, contreversial suggestions, to get people to stay in the game in hopes that their idea is accepted.
Examples of those suggestions are things like pets, still in debate, and nerfed zombie and retrode melee, that was brought in last update.
I personaly think that they are trying to hold on to long-time players as opposed to bringing in new ones. Not that that's all bad, but it's a statment. I like how there are both more CE sinks and more actual CE. Better flow of money, spreading the happiness and all that jazz. Retro enemies were cool. Though responding to spam is baaad. It seems like players are starting to smoosh OOO. Them listening to more suggestions is good, and the poll was a good idea, but at this rate I'm hoping it dosen't snowball to the point where this becomes a sandbox game. Just dont wanna see SK screwed up becuase it dosent have enough suppourt. I recall seeing SK ad's all over the internet, clicked on a youtube one personaly. Now I don't see any ad's at all. Not enough people coming in. We need more people and more routine updaes with subtle, but useful content. Like new levels and equipment, for the average joe. No catch, just some general game expansion, and a bit more enforcment against fourm spamming. Heavy duty hit the nail on the head for the part the players are to blame for in his last post.
Pets are just accessories that move.... We dont need more accessories!
Gahh not a pet's thread. Not that I dissagree. This ain't the place for that though, this thread's not against the actual "idea" of pets, but the way it's spoken among other spammed things, and about how OOO dosen't seem to find this wrong, regardless of the fact that it blocks out some more educated seeming suggestions.
pets that affect gameplay could be potentially game-breaking unless they just fetch items or give some sort of mild special effect (for example, like pokemon held items, where you get a slight damage boost or avoid a single status effect), and pets that don't affect gameplay would be pointless and suck up memory, but either way they'll probably be obscenely overpriced.
Did you read the last post? I'm going to get wrinkles in my forehead at this rate.
Its not that theres no T1 players, Its that why would T1 play PvP when 200 cr is a godlike amount of cr for them.